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The Deity's Mistake

The Deity's Mistake

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“In time, the Deity perceived that death was a mistake; a mistake, in that it was insufficient; insufficient, for the reason that while it was an admirable agent for the inflicting of misery upon the survivor, it allowed the dead person himself to escape from all further persecution in the blessed refuge of the grave. This was not satisfactory. A way must be conceived to pursue the dead beyond the tomb.

The Deity pondered this matter during four thousand years unsuccessfully, but as soon as he came down to earth and became a Christian his mind cleared and he knew what to do. He invented hell, and proclaimed it.”

-Mark Twain, Letters from the Earth


This quote always comes to mind when I watch other comedic bits on YouTube about how God allegedly got much nicer in the New Testament.

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Of course God did not change or become nicer.
The revelation of God's purpose was gradually unfolded over centuries because
God is very profound.

A little is revealed in this age.
More is revealed in another age.
More still is unveiled in another age.

Paul spoke of " . . . revelation of the mystery was made known to me, . . .

Which in other generations was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets in spirit, . . . " (See Eph. 3:2-5)


Something in past ages was not revealed but by Paul's time IS.

"And to enlighten all that they may see what the economy of the mystery is, which throughout the ages has been hidden in God, who created all things." (v.9)

We do not have God becoming nicer or changing as you imagine.
We have God taking a long time throughout history to gradually unfold more
and more of His salvation and eternal purpose.

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The Gospel of John did not immediately follow the book of Genesis.
There was not a change in God's attitude towards death or the falling away of
His creature man into sin.

In that regard He says He does not change. (Mal. 3:6).
He does say that He will do a new thing.

"Do not call to mind the former things, Nor consider the things of old.
Indeed, I am doing a new thing; It will now spring forth;
Do you not know it?
I will even make a way in the wilderness. Rivers in the desert." (Isa. 43:18,19)


God did not change concerning sin and death.
God over time unfolded more and more of His plan, salvation and eternal purpose.

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To be fair, there are verses saying God repented of something as if He made a mistake.

Ie. "and Jehovah said, I will blot out the man whom I have created from the surface of the ground, from man to beast to creeping things to the birds of heaven; for I repent that I have made them." (Gen. 6:7)

An utterance like that could give someone the ground to believe in a Deity's mistake. Right?

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@sonship said
An utterance like that could give someone the ground to believe in a Deity's mistake. Right?
Well, a skeptic would certainly think so. A believer will find a way to spin the narrative otherwise.

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@bigdoggproblem said
Well, a skeptic would certainly think so. A believer will find a way to spin the narrative otherwise.
You think believers have no questions or curious issues with the Bible just because they have put their trust in?

Maybe I have some better questions to pose then the skeptic.

You see, once the living Christ has come to enter your heart and spiritual being, most of the questions are answered JUST by His presence.

Don't assume that a believer like me could not point out some paradoxes unresolved even after many happy years knowing the Lord Jesus intimately and personally.

Even the Apostle Paul did not leave the impression that there was nothing left for him to contemplate as not easy to comprehend.

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Of course not. Without questions and doubts, there would be no reason to spin a narrative in the first place.

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You spoke of World Wrestling entertainment.
And you suspect spin about God in the Bible?

You're not being hoodwinked by God in the Bible.
You're being more hoodwinked by the entertainment and phoniness of your wrestling heroes.

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@sonship said
You spoke of World Wrestling entertainment.
And you suspect spin about God in the Bible?

You're not being hoodwinked by God in the Bible.
You're being more hoodwinked by the entertainment and phoniness of your wrestling heroes.
Back to combat mode. Too bad. And such an empty attack, at that.

You just can't help yourself, can you?

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Am I in some sort of trouble?

I just wager that you're getting more cheap fictional thrills with your TV wrestling
then with anything in the Bible.

Its true.

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@sonship said
Am I in some sort of trouble?
You've unilaterally declared yourself to be irrevocably "saved". You've declared yourself to be "becoming like Jesus". You've delared that you are going to be deified as a "Godman" when you die. Why would anyone think you were "in some sort of trouble"?

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The Deity's Mistake

It's an interesting conceit although the apparent so-called "Mistake" is, I'd say, caused by the the fact that Christianity ~ and the NT attendant thereto ~ was a breakaway religion that understandably and cleverly piggybacked on Judaism which meant that the join between the two had to be sanded down with the application of spin like the concept of the Trinity and the ridiculous tying-it-altogether psilocybic Book of Revelation.

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@bigdoggproblem said
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“In time, the Deity perceived that death was a mistake; a mistake, in that it was insufficient; insufficient, for the reason that while it was an admirable agent for the inflicting of misery upon the survivor, it allowed the dead person himself to escape from all further persecution in the blessed refuge of the grave. This was not satisfactory. A way must be c ...[text shortened]... n I watch other comedic bits on YouTube about how God allegedly got much nicer in the New Testament.
One of the big problems of the modern is that they value niceness above justice; niceness ends up becoming the measure of all things.

Putting the ethics of being nice above that of being just is a very feminine way to think.

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Better to think in a feminine way, than a sexist one.

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