@divegeester saidAgreed.
Obviously life begins at the conception.
I.e. The moment a sperm penetrates the egg and the process of creating a new life and new person begins through cell division.
03 May 22
@sonship saidSo what was the spirit that was in Jesus body, before Jesus was conceived and born, a second “spirit”?
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Is this true for the physical life of Jesus also?
Yes.
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After me asnwering that the physical life of Jesus began at His conception, you ask this:
So what was the spirit that was in Jesus body, before Jesus was conceived and born, a second “spirit”?
This may not be that easy for me to answer.
However man is composed of "spirit and soul and body" (1 Thess. 5:23)
I believe I would answer you that the -
The human body of Jesus the man came into being at conception.
The human soul of Jesus also came into being at this time.
The human spirit of Jesus also came into creation at this time.
In terms of His humanity all these human components came into being in the womb of the virgin woman Mary in the otherwise normal conception of the man Jesus.
But He was God become a man.
The full mystery of this I do not pretend to be able to explain completely.
The "Spirit of Christ" as Peter said was in the old testament prophets, was that divine part pre-existing and eternal to the past. That I think is not the human spirit but the Spirit Who is the uncreated God. And He was.
First Peter 1:10,11
Concerning this salvation the prophets, who prophesied concerning the grace . . . Searching into what time or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ in them was making clear, . . . testifying beforehand"
04 May 22
@sonship saidAt quick glance I don’t think I disagree with anything posted here by you sonship.
After me asnwering that the physical life of Jesus began at His conception, you ask this:
So what was the spirit that was in Jesus body, before Jesus was conceived and born, a second “spirit”?
This may not be that easy for me to answer.
However man is composed of "spirit and soul and body" (1 Thess. 5:23)
I believe I would answer yo ...[text shortened]... s making clear, testifying beforehand of the sufferings of Christ and the glories after these.: [/b]
We probably disagree on what, and importantly who, the spirit that was within Jesus was.
Because the bible is explicit that there is ONE spirit and that God is ONE, my assertion is that the same spirit that was within Christ was the same spirit that is in fact the spirit of Jehovah himself.
This is the basis of why I disagree with the trinity.
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So what was the spirit that was in Jesus body, before Jesus was conceived and born, a second “spirit”?
The capital S - Spirit is God - uncreated.
The small s - spirit that Jesus along with any OTHER human being was created with, was an item of creation.
The Creator became a creature.
Or the Creator clothed Himself in His creation.
Sorry to distract form Roe vs Wade.
But I wanted to make myself clear.