Originally posted by Dasa I just tell it like it is...............because I trust the authority (the Vedas)
Firstly the cosmos is just over 150 trillion years old .and the earth has been destroyed and recreated several times in that period..........OK.
The Vedas have been saying all along that there are innumerable planets and galaxies in the universe and that there are also innu ...[text shortened]... s no clue about origins of life and man and they will never accept the Vedas due to false pride.
The Vedas are from deceiving spirits and contain doctrines of demons.
Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons
(1 Timothy 4:1 KJV)
Every doctrine that denies Christ as the Savior of the world, or that places Him in a subordinate position such as that of some kind of lesser god, is demonic. If you follow demonic teaching it is to your own peril.
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Originally posted by RJHinds The Vedas are from deceiving spirits and contain doctrines of demons.
Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons
(1 Timothy 4:1 KJV)
Every doctrine that denies Christ as the Savior of the world, or that places Him in a subordinate position s ...[text shortened]... hich burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. [/quote]
(Revelation 21:8 KJV)
Revelations was forced to become a book in the NT by a crazed cleric, Bishop Athanasius, 360 years after Christ. The book was not even especially religious but was written as a tract against the Romans written by John of Patmos who saw firsthand the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans where 60,000 Jews were killed.
Originally posted by sonhouse Revelations was forced to become a book in the NT by a crazed cleric, Bishop Athanasius, 360 years after Christ. The book was not even especially religious but was written as a tract against the Romans written by John of Patmos who saw firsthand the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans where 60,000 Jews were killed.
Then it took on a life of it's own.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!
Originally posted by sonhouse It is only 'religious' because that idiot Bishop forced it onto the world.
Not so. One bishop can not do that. It must be voted on, dummy.
The first council that accepted the present Catholic canon (the Canon of Trent) may have been the Synod of Hippo Regius in North Africa (393); the acts of this council, however, are lost. A brief summary of the acts was read at and accepted by the Councils of Carthage in 397 and 419. These councils were under the authority of St. Augustine, who regarded the canon as already closed. Pope Damasus I's Council of Rome in 382, if the Decretum Gelasianum is correctly associated with it, issued a biblical canon identical to that mentioned above, or if not, the list is at least a 6th-century compilation. Likewise, Damasus' commissioning of the Latin Vulgate edition of the Bible, c. 383, was instrumental in the fixation of the canon in the West.
In 405, Pope Innocent I sent a list of the sacred books to a Gallic bishop, Exsuperius of Toulouse. When these bishops and councils spoke on the matter, however, they were not defining something new, but instead "were ratifying what had already become the mind of the Church." Thus, from the 4th century, there existed unanimity in the West concerning the New Testament canon (as it is today), and by the 5th century the East, with a few exceptions, had come to accept the Book of Revelation and thus had come into harmony on the matter of the New Testament canon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_canon
Athanasius wrote the list to end disputes about such texts as “The Shepherd of Hermas” or “The Epistle of Barnabas,” which long had been regarded as equal to the apostolic letters. He also silenced those who had questioned the apostolic authenticity of Peter’s letters or the Book of Revelation. Athanasius states that “in these [27 writings] alone the teaching of godliness is proclaimed. No one may add to them, and nothing may be taken away from them.”
Controversial Canon
One document supports Athanasius’s position: The famous Codex Vaticanus in the Vatican Library, a Greek codex of the Old and New Testaments. It consists of the same books in the same order as in Athanasius’s festal letter—which is particularly noteworthy given the peculiar order: Gospels, Acts, Catholic Epistles (James, 1 and 2 Peter, 1, 2, and 3 John, and Jude), Pauline Epistles (including Hebrews between 2 Thessalonians and 1 Timothy), and Revelation. The Codex Vaticanus probably was written in Rome, in 340, by Alexandrian scribes for Emperor Constans, during Athanasius’s seven-year exile in the city. It would thus predate the festal letter. Even though Athanasius was probably not far away when the Codex Vaticanus was written, one realizes that the establishment of the canon was not a sudden decision made unilaterally by a bishop in Alexandria, but a process of careful investigation and deliberation, documented in a codex of the Greek Bible and, twenty-seven years later, in a festal letter.
Originally posted by RJHinds Not so. One bishop can not do that. It must be voted on, dummy.
The first council that accepted the present Catholic canon (the Canon of Trent) may have been the Synod of Hippo Regius in North Africa (393); the acts of this council, however, are lost. A brief summary of the acts was read at and accepted by the Councils of Carthage in 397 and 419. T ...[text shortened]... later, in a festal letter.
They knew full well it wasn't a religious document. They knowingly added it to their lineup because they knew they would have a nice weapon to control their people.
They knew from day one that Revelations was a tract against the Romans. They just perverted the meaning to match their dogmatic criteria.
Originally posted by sonhouse They knew full well it wasn't a religious document. They knowingly added it to their lineup because they knew they would have a nice weapon to control their people.
They knew from day one that Revelations was a tract against the Romans. They just perverted the meaning to match their dogmatic criteria.
You are just pissed because you were busted again. 😏
Originally posted by sonhouse That is YOUR problem, not mine. The REAL world knows the Earth is billions of years old. Only the brainwashed thinks different. Kind of like you.
Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.
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