Let's relive that Kodac moment again, shall we?
Originally posted by no1marauder
I would think the females genes would prefer an utterly selfish mate as that one would have even better selfish genes to successfully replicate.
Originally posted by Scottishinnz
So, altruistic behaviour is about maximising the numbers of copies of your genes you pass on then? [coughs]
Originally posted by scottishinnzWhat a dunce. Are you sure you ever got through grade school?
Let's relive that Kodac moment again, shall we?
Originally posted by no1marauder
I would think the females genes would prefer an utterly selfish mate as that one would have even better selfish genes to successfully replicate.
Originally posted by Scottishinnz
So, altruistic behaviour is about maximising the numbers of copies of your genes you pass on then? [coughs]
Originally posted by no1marauderAnd if it's an evolutionary benefit its about maximising copies of genes. And if its about that, then it's genetically selfish. Back to your sandpit now Marauder.
That was sarcasm, Mr. Genius.
Sure altruistic behavior has an evolutionary benefit; I never said it didn't. It just ain't for the reasons you claim.
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Originally posted by scottishinnzThat's a circular argument. Those are logically invalid. Sorry, you lose.
And if it's an evolutionary benefit its about maximising copies of genes. And if its about that, then it's genetically selfish. Back to your sandpit now Marauder.
EDIT: It's also the Fallacy of Equivocation with the word "selfish". Your whole argument is based on two fallacies. How embarrassing for you!
Originally posted by no1marauderYOU said that you think altruism has evolutionary benefit. If that is the case then it must be about increasing the gene frequency - therefore, it is genetically selfish.
Of course it is. The premise is contained in the conclusion. Go back to school.
Why not just take your beating like a man, maintain some dignity.
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Originally posted by scottishinnzYou are just committing the Fallacy of Equivocation. But then you are claiming that not only are persons "genetic selfish", but that they selfish in reality. Why else talk about Communism?
YOU said that you think altruism has evolutionary benefit. If that is the case then it must be about increasing the gene frequency - therefore, it is genetically selfish.
Why not just take your beating like a man, maintain some dignity.
I really don't care; IF your definition is that ANYTHING that leads to evolutionary advantage is "genetically selfish", so be it. However, my point in this thread is that humans are hotwired for altruism and cooperation; so much so that they engage in acts of altruism without any expectation of reciprocation all the time. I regard your "explanations" for this undisputed fact to be contrived and ridiculous. Firemen rush into buildings thinking that it will help them get laid? Idiotic.
Originally posted by no1marauderMarauder: "Firemen rush into buildings thinking that it will help them get laid? Idiotic."
You are just committing the Fallacy of Equivocation. But then you are claiming that not only are persons "genetic selfish", but that they selfish in reality. Why else talk about Communism?
I really don't care; IF your definition is that ANYTHING that leads to evolutionary advantage is "genetically selfish", so be it. However, my point in thi ...[text shortened]... idiculous. Firemen rush into buildings thinking that it will help them get laid? Idiotic.
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