The Holy Spirit

medullah pointed out 'last night', quite rightly, that Muslims also venerate Jesus ~ as a prophet and, according to their beliefs [rather like the Christians], as the one who will return to the world for the "end times" when he will restore justice and vanquish the Antichrist.

Meanwhile, the Jews saw Jesus as an imposter and fake.

So it got me thinking about the "Holy Spirit". Christians here mostly claim that it "dwells" in them and causes some kind of supernatural transformation.

The Holy Spirit in Islam is called "Ruh al-Qudus". It was the Holy Spirit, in the form of Gabriel, that is believed to have appeared to Muhammed and who was the inspiration behind his subsequent writings which were to get the worship of the God of Moses and Abraham back on track after the mistakes of Judaism and Christianity.

For Muslims, the Holy Spirit represents "salvation for all creation in terms of judgment ... it is like a spirit which gives life". [I Googled it]

In Indonesia, Christians call The Holy Spirit "Roh Kudus" [in the Indonesian language]. Roh means spirit and kudus is the word for holy.

In Hebrew, it's called "Ruach ha-kodesh" and, in Judaism, it is believed to be "the divine force, quality, and influence of God over the universe or over God's creatures".

I accept that Christians, Jews and Muslims sincerely believe that something supernatural is working in them or affecting them.

What are the corresponding attributes in those who lack theist beliefs? Benevolence? Philanthropy? Empathy? Mercy?

@fmf said
medullah pointed out 'last night', quite rightly, that Muslims also venerate Jesus ~ as a prophet and, according to their beliefs [rather like the Christians], as the one who will return to the world for the "end times" when he will restore justice and vanquish the Antichrist.

Meanwhile, the Jews saw Jesus as an imposter and fake.

So it got me thinking about the "Holy Spir ...[text shortened]... orresponding attributes in those who lack theist beliefs? Benevolence? Philanthropy? Empathy? Mercy?

@fmf said
medullah pointed out 'last night', quite rightly, that Muslims also venerate Jesus ~ as a prophet and, according to their beliefs [rather like the Christians], as the one who will return to the world for the "end times" when he will restore justice and vanquish the Antichrist.

Meanwhile, the Jews saw Jesus as an imposter and fake.

So it got me thinking about the "Holy Spir ...[text shortened]... orresponding attributes in those who lack theist beliefs? Benevolence? Philanthropy? Empathy? Mercy?

@pb1022 said
<<What are the corresponding attributes in those who lack theist beliefs? Benevolence? Philanthropy? Empathy? Mercy?>>

Probably all of the above.

But because atheists don’t believe in an afterlife, their “good works” will solely concern addressing immediate needs in the present world, while a believer’s “good works” will include addressing immediate needs *and* helping t ...[text shortened]... works but was a command from Jesus Christ.

An atheist obviously does not believe in saving souls.

@kevin-eleven said
Does a smarty-pants like you really believe in the afterlife?
And if so, why so?

Also, do you believe in this life?

@pb1022 said
Because I believe the Holy Bible.

And obviously I believe in this life. A better question would be what do I believe is the purpose of this life.

@pb1022 said
But because atheists don’t believe in an afterlife, their “good works” will solely concern addressing immediate needs in the present world, while a believer’s “good works” will include addressing immediate needs *and* helping to bring forth “eternal fruit.”A believer believes in saving souls and that counts not only as good works but was a command from Jesus Christ.

@kevin-eleven said
I think an even better question would be:

If you really were RomansWhatever before you got bumped off the site, why haven't you made any attempt to make amends or to apologize, instead of trundling on to prove your own petty cleverness?

@fmf said
You have, on numerous occasions, attributed your behaviour and demeanour here to the "Holy Spirit indwelling" you. Do you see your activity on this forum as being an endeavour to "save souls"? Do you see your posting as "good works"?

@pb1022 said
You really can’t think of any other direction to go into than this?

@pb1022 said
Yawn.

@fmf said
The thread's direction is about how the supposed influence of "The Holy Spirit" manifests itself in those who claim to be influenced by it.

@pb1022 said
Did I answer your OP so thoroughly that this is what you’re left with?

@pb1022 said
I don’t see anything in your OP about “how the supposed influence of ‘The Holy Spirit’ manifests itself in those who claim to be influenced by it.”

@kevin-eleven said
Well? Answer tomorrow if you need to catch up on your sleep.