Originally posted by DasaUnless said Phd is in the Vedas.
Intellectualism is that ism that attempts to disguise error falsity and ignorance in so many words.
Persons are very proud of their Phd,s - and the more they have the more worthwhile they feel.
What is the use of intellectualism - if at the end of the day persons with Phd,s do not know who and what they are.
They believe they are the body and the body ...[text shortened]... of chemicals happy.
This is where intellectualism has come so far with its intellectualizing.
Originally posted by Dasa" neo Buddhists" ? You're kidding, right? (Maybe we are thinking of different people here, but I dont know hardly any people I would calss as "neo Buddhist", even loosely.)
There are parts of the Veda that are very intellectual - but that intellectualism is not used to deceive.
The greatest offenders of intellectualism are the neo Buddhists.
Originally posted by karoly aczelNeo-Buddhists are converts to Buddhism from Hinduism after Dr. Bhimrao Ambedkar, a great leader and the person mainly responsible for drafting the Indian Constitution, converted to Buddhism from Hinduism in the 1950s.
" neo Buddhists" ? You're kidding, right? (Maybe we are thinking of different people here, but I dont know hardly any people I would calss as "neo Buddhist", even loosely.)
Originally posted by FMFLet me do the questioning, for a change, please. If, as I believe, this forum is for debating spiritual matters, debates rather than acidic comments on personalities of the posters, should be the immediate concern. That being so, why is it that you, always occupying a high moral ground, are posting on personal foibles of a poster, rather than engage in a debate with other posters ?
What debate?
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoWhat "debate" are you talking about? Do you feel you are in a competition of some kind?
Let me do the questioning, for a change, please. If, as I believe, this forum is for debating spiritual matters, debates rather than acidic comments on personalities of the posters, should be the immediate concern. That being so, why is it that you, always occupying a high moral ground, are posting on personal foibles of a poster, rather than engage in a debate with other posters ?
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Originally posted by rvsakhadeoNot being a religionist, I don't seek to change your belief system, rvsakhadeo, so what need do you have of understanding mine? I simply object to religionists questioning the intellect or the imagination or the curiosity or the integrity or even the sanity of non-religionists, ad nauseam.
Debate as a means of understanding each other's positions, as a means of exchanging information.
Originally posted by FMFI understand that.
Not being a religionist, I don't seek to change your belief system, rvsakhadeo, so what need do have of understanding mine? I simply object to religionists questioning the intellect or the imagination or the curiosity or the integrity or even the sanity of non-religionists, ad nauseam.
Originally posted by karoly aczelThe neo Buddhist are those Buddhists who have taken the principle of Non Violence ( Ahimsa) and have turned it back the front to mean ( do violence.)
" neo Buddhists" ? You're kidding, right? (Maybe we are thinking of different people here, but I dont know hardly any people I would calss as "neo Buddhist", even loosely.)
In other words they are supporting the slaughter of animals instead of protecting the animals like their Buddhist teachings demand.
This is the new (neo Buddhism) of today.
What will tomorrow bring.
Originally posted by DasaWhat about the violence we do to plants to get our food? Does not a plant have a soul?
The neo Buddhist are those Buddhists who have taken the principle of Non Violence ( Ahimsa) and have turned it back the front to mean ( do violence.)
In other words they are supporting the slaughter of animals instead of protecting the animals like their Buddhist teachings demand.
This is the new (neo Buddhism) of today.
What will tomorrow bring.
Originally posted by sonhouseAll living things have the soul within - otherwise they could not live.
What about the violence we do to plants to get our food? Does not a plant have a soul?
The soul is indestructible and eternal.
Plants and fruits and milk have been given to mankind for food.
There is no sin in eating the produce of crops or drinking milk.
However the killing of sentient beings is condemned for those advancing on the path of God consciousness - for each creature has their particular path and allotted span of life and no one has the right to interfere with that.
Its all about raising the consciousness to the transcendental platform - because when the consciousness is pure - then many activities become distasteful.
Without pure consciousness then love for God will not be achieved.
It is impossible to love God and at the same time kill Gods creatures.
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While you say it is ok for us to eat plants and drink milk for food; is it also acceptable to take pleasure while killing the plants?
Let's say one of those lesser people, a Christian for example, takes a baseball bat and with a diabolical laugh, proceeds to club a cactus to death -- BUT, he eats the fruit as well. is that acceptable?
What if someone milks a cow, but does so overly aggressively, or, derives some deviant pleasure from it. Is this acceptable in the Vedic teachings?
Originally posted by sumydidIf you are going to talk like a fool then I cannot help you.
While you say it is ok for us to eat plants and drink milk for food; is it also acceptable to take pleasure while killing the plants?
Let's say one of those lesser people, a Christian for example, takes a baseball bat and with a diabolical laugh, proceeds to club a cactus to death -- BUT, he eats the fruit as well. is that acceptable?
What if someone ...[text shortened]... ssively, or, derives some deviant pleasure from it. Is this acceptable in the Vedic teachings?
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Originally posted by DasaJust lightening up the mood. It gets a little too dry in here sometimes. My apologies if you found it offensive.
If you are going to talk like a fool then I cannot help you.
Though I will admit to being curious. If the Vedic teachings don't contain anything on the subject, and they probably don't, then what is your personal take?
Is the cold blooded, first degree murder of a plant -- something that would anger your Pagan god?