Originally posted by josephw
[b]"When are you folks going to get into critical thinking mode..."
You say God has been silent, yet you over look the statement of the existence of the entire universe.
Anyone can be a naysayer. Why don't you explain how you think the universe came into existence? I'd like to know what critical thinking leads you to know how the universe exists.[/b]
You do know human science is still in the baby stage don't you? Barely 200 years old as we know it?
So you come on demanding we answer the question of how did we get here and because AT THIS TIME science has only partial answers, then GOD MUST HAVE DONE IT?
That is a prime example of NOT using critical thinking.
We can't at this time answer that question so god had to do it.
At least you admit your so-called god has been totally silent for 2000 years.
You think that is how a deity goes about its business?
To me, it is clear this man made entity was given human attributes to be able to easier capture converts with the idea of building up a large political force. That is exactly what happened with Christianity and Islam.
There was no god needed for the events that have happened in the last 5000 years.
You seem to ignore the pure fact that humans have creativity and can invent all kinds of gods which has happened hundreds of times in the last 5000 years, where one god would be pitted against another, one race in charge, killing the lesser races and so forth.
This is NOT godlike behavior. This is HUMAN attributes tacked on to the human made construct that is modern religion.
And of course your reply will be, as usual, 'you really think you know the mind of god'?
I look at the difference between, say, bacteria and humans. Big difference in cognitive ability, I would say.
I would also say that would be kind of like the difference in cognitive ability between humans and a deity.
As such, said deity would CERTAINLY not have human attributes.
That alone tells me the raft of religion is riding on floating waters and it could spill over into darkness very easily as seen by the inquisitions, the crusades, and now ISIS and Boko Haram and Christian terrorists killing abortion clinic doctors.
All of these things are human attributes in action, not something a god would do, yet literally hundreds of millions of deaths in century 20 alone and a totally silent god.
Like it would have to wait till some judgement day to actually do something about all those deaths.
What a fantasy in the religious set to think a god would need to have everything all be judged as if it were not able to have seen what has gone on in the last 2,000 years or so.
Your alleged god DID have a temper tantrum in the flood, right? So why do you think that just because that so-called incident (I think totally bogus, never happened, in my book) but if it had, why would you think this god would have somehow changed and become mellow all of a sudden?
Clearly, whether you consider the universe and Earth to be a few thousand years old or a few billion years old, if it was made by a god, then it would have knowledge of that entire time, either way, WAY outside human existence, so why would you think this god would have somehow changed in that time? I say it would be the same god today as it was 5000 years ago.