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The post that was quoted here has been removedif someone has aided or abetted a criminal act or in this case, withheld evidence of a criminal act, regardless of whether they are masquerading under the guise of a minister of religion or not, why should they not face prosecution? It seems to me that they are guilty by association. what do you think? In Scots Law for example, one does not need to steal to be guilty of a theft, there is a charge of reset, simply receiving stolen goods, thus one is guilty through association.
The post that was quoted here has been removed"John calls to the parish priest to make a complaint about the behaviour of one of his curates. The parish priest sees him coming but does not want to see him because he considers John to be a troublemaker. He sends another of his curates to answer the door. John asks the curate if the parish priest is in. The curate replies that he is not.
Originally posted by Conrau K[/b][/b]If someone asks a priest 'Did that man commit murder?' the priest may answer 'No' even if the man did commit murder. Knowing that the priest is bound absolutely by the seal of confession, the person will understand that by 'No' he means 'No, as far as I know with secrets aside.' There is no deception since I understand that the speaker is a priest and that certain words must be reserved.
[b]"John calls to the parish priest to make a complaint about the behaviour of one of his curates. The parish priest sees him coming but does not want to see him because he considers John to be a troublemaker. He sends another of his curates to answer the door. John asks the curate if the parish priest is in. The curate replies that he is not.
[b]This is is no justification from the side of traditional Catholic moral theology.
The post that was quoted here has been removedShould Bishops who covered up knowledge of child-abuse by Priests, and moved these Priests to other parishes to commit further abuse, face prison sentences?
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
[/b]If someone asks a priest 'Did that man commit murder?' the priest may answer 'No' even if the man did commit murder. Knowing that the priest is bound absolutely by the seal of confession, the person will understand that by 'No' he means 'No, as far as I know with secrets aside.' There is no deception since I understand that the speaker is a pri would be, "I am bound by the seal of confession". "No" is a lie plain and simple.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
[b]Should Bishops who covered up knowledge of child-abuse by Priests, and moved these Priests to other parishes to commit further abuse, face prison sentences?
Not only Bishops, but anyone (including the Pope) with such knowledge that allowed this practice.[/b]
Originally posted by Conrau KThe question is whether or not the answer is deceptive and it is. The example states, "If someone asks a priest...". It's not just about what you take as an understanding between you and priests. Besides, just because you and any given priest may have an understanding between you that he is willing to lie doesn't change the fact that he is lying. Just because you call his lie a "mental reservation" doesn't change the fact that he is lying.
[b]
A lie by any other name...
You're kidding yourself if you don't think this is deceptive. A non-deceptive answer would be, "I am bound by the seal of confession". "No" is a lie plain and simple.
Perhaps in your world, but in mine, when I ask a priest a question, I know that there is always a mental reservation in regards to the seal of confess d by the seal of confession', I would have my answer. He would have betrayed his secret.[/b]
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneThe question is whether or not the answer is deceptive and it is. The example states, "If [b]someone asks a priest...". It's not just about what you take as an understanding between you and priests. Besides, just because you and any given priest may have an understanding between you that he is willing to lie doesn't change the fact that he is lying. Just because you call his lie a "mental reservation" doesn't change the fact that he is lying. [/b]
The question is whether or not the answer is deceptive and it is. The example states, "If [b]someone asks a priest...". It's not just about what you take as an understanding between you and priests. Besides, just because you and any given priest may have an understanding between you that he is willing to lie doesn't change the fact that he is lying. ...[text shortened]... nfirmation or denial. Or is this part of the "understanding" between you and priests?[/b]