1. An' it harms none...
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    24 May '05 17:12
    Is the Pope the Earthly spokeman for God, or something else?
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    24 May '05 19:09
    The Pope is somethin' else
  3. An' it harms none...
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    24 May '05 19:18
    So what is he then?
  4. Standard memberRBHILL
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    24 May '05 19:23
    Originally posted by dags
    Is the Pope the Earthly spokeman for God, or something else?
    Anyone who is a saved believer is a spokesman for God.
  5. An' it harms none...
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    24 May '05 19:28
    So if a "saved believer" is the spokesperson for God, and that svaed believer is responsible for the death of thousands, is your God evil?
  6. Standard memberRBHILL
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    24 May '05 19:561 edit
    Originally posted by dags
    So if a "saved believer" is the spokesperson for God, and that svaed believer is responsible for the death of thousands, is your God evil?
    No, People still have free will.

    It is satan that corrupts the minds of people like So dumb and mr. Binny Laden.
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    24 May '05 20:02
    Originally posted by dags
    Is the Pope the Earthly spokeman for God, or something else?
    The previous pope was a Polish fellow with a budget of silly beliefs about how the world is. The current pope, on the other hand, is German.
  8. An' it harms none...
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    24 May '05 20:06
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    No, People still have free will.

    It is satan that corrupts the minds of people like So dumb and mr. Binny Laden.
    So by the same logic wouldnt it be possible for your God to corrupt the minds of people and would that then make s/he evil, or do you still put that down to "free will"? Is only Satan capable of corrupting minds or influencing free will?
  9. Standard memberRBHILL
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    24 May '05 20:07
    Originally posted by bbarr
    German.
    😉 I get what you are trying to say.
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    25 May '05 09:11
    Originally posted by dags
    Is the Pope the Earthly spokeman for God, or something else?
    What do you mean by "earthly spokesman (sp) for God"?
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    25 May '05 09:11
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    😉 I get what you are trying to say.
    Which is?
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    25 May '05 11:23
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Anyone who is a saved believer is a spokesman for God.
    the last words of Christ to his apostles:

    Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

    16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall
    not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall
    recover.

    16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

    Are you really "saved" RB? Do you show the signs that you "believe"?

    REALLY?
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    25 May '05 13:26
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    What do you mean by "earthly spokesman (sp) for God"?
    I mean does this person speak for god on Earth or is s/he just another person who believes?
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    25 May '05 13:44
    Originally posted by dags
    I mean does this person speak for god on Earth or is s/he just another person who believes?
    The Pope is more than just another believer. He holds a position that was instituted by God; his authority (in moral matters) was obtained from God. That does not mean, however, that he is a "spokesman" for God in the same way that (say) a Prophet is; or that God does not speak to the world directly or indirectly through other channels. Nor does it mean that everything the Pope does is "speaking for God". Does that answer your question?
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    25 May '05 14:21
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    The Pope is more than just another believer. He holds a position that was instituted by God; his authority (in moral matters) was obtained from God. That does not mean, however, that he is a "spokesman" for God in the same way that (say) a Prophet is; or that God does not speak to the world directly or indirectly through other channels. Nor does it ...[text shortened]... an that everything the Pope does is "speaking for God". Does that answer your question?
    Kind of. So is anyone responisble for the interpretation and implementation of "gods will" other than god? Should you really take it all on faith?
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