1. Standard membermobster kitty
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    10 Jan '20 17:16
    @FMF

    hagar was a "slave" and not a 'concubine".
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    10 Jan '20 17:44
    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    In his defense sir, he said Abraham, not Moses.
    Oops!
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    10 Jan '20 17:48
    l am often wrong on facts.

    sometimes.

    i am not wrong on my intent.
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    10 Jan '20 17:59
    @DeepThought

    i think you treat the word "concubine" a 18th century word differently as hagar would. the handmaid of the first wife, of a different race, would be a slave.
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    10 Jan '20 18:03
    @deepthought said
    In the narrative in Exodus, before they depart Egypt, God sends ten plagues. They more or less increase in severity. The plagues were, in the order they happened: Blood, Frogs, Lice, Flies, Pestilence of livestock, Boils, Hailstorm, Locusts, Darkness, Death of Firstborn. The first eight are all pretty similar severity wise, the second last is scary rather than severe, ...[text shortened]... covet" - it's not so much the coveting, as that it risks one of the other commandments being broken.
    I think lice was the last before the death of the firstborn. I'd have to check.

    Actually, "thou shalt not covet" is the most important because it deals with the issues of the heart, which is the heart of the matter.
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    10 Jan '20 18:06
    @SecondSon

    because do not covet speaks to the first commandent.

    do not covet another god before me.
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    10 Jan '20 18:08
    @mister-moggy said
    @SecondSon

    because do not covet speaks to the first commandent.

    do not covet another god before me.
    I think we're to not covet anything.
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    10 Jan '20 18:15
    @SecondSon

    in the nature of biology...we all covet. to live...even our soul which choose otherwise....if we are in the biologoical kingdom...we strive to live..thus covet...covet to eat another..so that we might live...in ANOTHER KINGDOM....we might be out true selves and be something else or make other choices.

    i am mister moggy...i know the final truth.
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    @mister-moggy said
    @SecondSon

    in the nature of biology...we all covet. to live...even our soul which choose otherwise....if we are in the biologoical kingdom...we strive to live..thus covet...covet to eat another..so that we might live...in ANOTHER KINGDOM....we might be out true selves and be something else or make other choices.

    i am mister moggy...i know the final truth.
    Do not covet what's not yours.
  10. Standard membermobster kitty
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    10 Jan '20 18:32
    do not covet...

    it means simply to eat your own bread, and you have not enough to ask your neighbour for a loaf..to share when you need it and to share when they need it,.
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