THE PROBLEM(S) OF EVIL: answered

Originally posted by dj2becker
I contend that everybody is punished for his or her own sin.

That's not what he asked.

Originally posted by dj2becker
I contend that everybody is punished for his or her own sin.

So, if I die in an Earthquake, I'm not being punished for the sin of Adam, am I?

Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
So, if I die in an Earthquake, I'm not being punished for the sin of Adam, am I?

Adam received the punishment for his sin. If you were killed in an earthquake it would be for your own sin.

As no man is without sin, you cannot be punished for someone else's sin, but you can be punished for your own sin.

Originally posted by kirksey957
That's not what he asked.

That is maybe not the answer he would have liked to hear, but it still answers his question.

Originally posted by dj2becker
Adam received the punishment for his sin. If you were killed in an earthquake it would be for your own sin.

As no man is without sin, you cannot be punished for someone else's sin, but you can be punished for your own sin.

It's a relief that I don't have to atone for the sin of Adam! (I have a hard enough time atoning for the sin of Onan!)

So, is it possible for me to get killed in an Earthquake *without* that being the consequence of my sinning?

Could you also clarify what you mean by "mankind bears the consequences of this choice"?

Originally posted by dj2becker
Adam received the punishment for his sin. If you were killed in an earthquake it would be for your own sin.

As no man is without sin, you cannot be punished for someone else's sin, but you can be punished for your own sin.

Do you realize what you're saying? Can we assume that everyone killed in an earthquake deserved to die because of their particular sin while those that didn't die did not deserve to die?

This kind of thinking completely contradicts the teachings of Jesus.

Originally posted by dj2becker
That is maybe not the answer he would have liked to hear, but it still answers his question.

Technically, it doesn't. But you subsequently did provide an answer.

Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
It's a relief that I don't have to atone for the sin of Adam! (I have a hard enough time atoning for the sin of Onan!)

So, is it possible for me to get killed in an Earthquake *without* that being the consequence of my sinning?

As death is a consequence of sin in itself, it would not make a difference what it was that killed you.

Originally posted by dj2becker
As death is a consequence of sin in itself, it would not make a difference what it was that killed you.

I don't understand what you mean.

Originally posted by kirksey957
Do you realize what you're saying? Can we assume that everyone killed in an earthquake deserved to die because of their particular sin while those that didn't die did not deserve to die?

This kind of thinking completely contradicts the teachings of Jesus.

You are putting words in my mouth.

Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
Could you also clarify what you mean by "mankind bears the consequences of this choice"?

If you place your hand into a fire, it will burn. The consequence of placing your hand into the fire is a burnt hand.

If you sin you shall die. The wages of sin is death.

Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
Technically, it doesn't. But you subsequently did provide an answer.

Technically, it doesn't.

Please explain.

Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
I don't understand what you mean.

As death is a consequence of sin in itself, it would not make a difference what it was that killed you.

"The wages of sin is death." Anything that kills you is the result of your sin.

If you are still unclear about this, please ask specific questions, and I will try to clear it up as best I can.

Originally posted by whodey
Is it earthquakes that kill people or is it the bulidings and structures they insist on building and living in that kill them during the earthquakes? Would we need buildings and such to live in if no one had sinned and the earth was still a paradise like state as was the Garden of Eden?

Wow. You are seriously suggesting that earthquakes wouldn't kill
people if they didn't have buildings. This makes RBHILL look like a
logician!

What about tidal waves? Would they kill people?

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