1. Standard memberDasa
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    Vedanta does not present mundane religion.......but mundane religion is mostly fabricated and there are many on offer.

    Instead Vedanta presents Santana Dharma which is not the same as mundane religion..

    Santana-dharma does not refer to any sectarian process of religion. It is the eternal function of the eternal living entities in relationship with the eternal Supreme Lord. Sanatana-dharama referrs to the eternal occupation of the living entity.

    The English word "religion" is a different from sanatana-dharma. Religion conveys the idea of faith, and faith may change. One may have faith in a particular process, and he may change this faith and adopt another, but sanatana-dharma referrs to that activity which cannot be changed.

    For instance liquidity can not be taken from water, nor can heat be taken from fire. Similarly the eternal function of the eternal living entity cannot be taken from the living entity. Sanatana-dharma is eternally integral with the living entity. When we speak of sanatana-dharma, then, we must take it forgranted that it has no beginning or end.

    That which has neither beginning or end cannot be sectarian, for it cannot be limited by any boundaries. Yet those belonging to some sectarian faith will wrongly consider that sanatana-dharma is also sectarian, but if we go deeply into the matter and consider it in the light of modern science, it is possible for us to see that sanatana-dharma is the business of all people of the world--nay, of all the living entities of the universe.

    Non-sanatana religious faith may have some beginning in the annals of human history, but there is no beginning to the history of sanatana-dharma because it remains eternally with the living entities.

    The Bhagavad-gita states that the living entity has neither birth nor death, he is eternal and indestructable, and he continues to live after the destruction of his temporary material body.

    In reference to the concept of sanatana-dharma, we must try to understand the concept of religion from the Sanskrit root meaning of the word. Dharma referrs to that which is constantly existing with the particular object. We conclude that there is heat and light along with the fire; without heat and light there is no meaning to the word fire. Similarly, we must discover the essential part of the living being, that part which is his constant companion. That constant companian is his eternal quality, and that eternal quality is his eternal religion.

    When Sanatana Gosvami asked Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu about the constitutional position of the living being He replied that it is the rendering of service to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. If we look at what is happening around us in the world we can easily see every living being is constantly engaged in rendering service to another living being. We can see that one friend serves another friend, the mother serves the son, the wife serves the husband, the husband serves the wife and so on. If we go on searching in this spirit, it will be seen that there is no exception in the society of living beings to the activity of service.

    The politician presents his manifesto for the public to convince them of his capacity for service. The voters therefore give the politician their valuable votes, thinking that he will render valuable service to society. The shopkeeper serves the customer, and the artisan serves the capitalist.

    The capitalist serves the family, and the family serves the state. In this way we can see that no living being is exempt from rendering service to other living beings, and therefore we can safely conclude that service is the constant companion of the living being and that the rendering of service is the eternal religion of the living being.

    Yet man professes to belong to a particular type of faith with reference to particular time and circumstance and thus claims to be a Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist or any other sect. Such designations are non-sanatana-dharma. A Hindu may change his faith to become a Muslim, or a Muslim may change his faith to become a Hindu, or a Christian may change his faith and so on.

    But in all circumstances the change of religious faith does not effect the eternal occupation of rendering service to others. The Hindu, Muslim or Christian in all circumstances is servant of someone. Thus, to profess a particular type of sect is not to profess one's sanatana-dharma. The rendering of service is sanatana-dharma.

    Factually we are related to the Supreme Lord in service. The Supreme Lord is the supreme enjoyer, and we living entities are His servitors. We are created for His enjoyment, and if we participate in that eternal enjoyment with the Supreme Personality of Godhead, we become happy. We cannot become happy otherwise. It is not possible to be happy independently, just as no one part of the body can be happy without cooperating with the stomach. It is not possible for the living entity to be happy without rendering transcendental loving service unto the Supreme Lord.

    The sanatana-dharma of every living entity is the rendering of service. No matter what religion one professes to belong to, this eternal occupation of rendering service remains with the living entity. To perfect one's life one simply requires the redirection of this service. Instead of serving in the material world, he can serve Krishna, the Supreme Persoanlity of Godhead.

    This process, transforming one's service from persons and objects in the material world, to the service of Krishna in the spiritual world, is the art of Krishna consciousness.
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    06 Mar '11 07:40
    This OP is an unattributed copy and post of someone else's writing. Plagiarism - passing off someone else's writing as your own - is very poor forum etiquette and is basically disrespectful to fellow members of the community.
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    06 Mar '11 08:26
    Originally posted by FMF
    This OP is an unattributed copy and post of someone else's writing. Plagiarism - passing off someone else's writing as your own - is very poor forum etiquette and is basically disrespectful to fellow members of the community.
    Your constant fault finding mentality, only reveals your atheistic nature.
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    06 Mar '11 08:301 edit
    Originally posted by Dasa
    Your constant fault finding mentality, only reveals your atheistic nature.
    Several members of this community have complained about your plagiarism. Presumably you persist as a calculated snub to fellow posters. Do you not feel at home here?
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    06 Mar '11 08:31
    Originally posted by Dasa
    Your ... atheistic nature.
    I am a theist. You've been told this repeatedly.
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    06 Mar '11 10:20
    Originally posted by FMF
    Several members of this community have complained about your plagiarism.
    You may not have noticed that Dasa (ne vishvahetu) holds little regard or respect for other members here. His dishonesty is also manifest through his continued plagarism.
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    06 Mar '11 10:26
    Originally posted by divegeester
    You may not have noticed that Dasa (ne vishvahetu) holds little regard or respect for other members here.
    An inkling was starting to take shape.
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    06 Mar '11 12:51
    Originally posted by Dasa
    Your constant fault finding mentality, only reveals your atheistic nature.
    As i've told you before, it's forum etiquette to provide a link (website address) from where you copy and pasted. Pointing this out has nothing today with an 'atheistic nature'.................whatever that may mean.
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    I believe Dasa had the remarkable fortune of typing a long string of text (except the first two lines) which almost perfectly matches what is contained in the first link - and that itself was presumably inspired/lifted from the second.

    http://www.iskcondesiretree.net/profiles/blogs/dharma-sanatanadharma
    http://www.asitis.com/introduction.html
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    06 Mar '11 13:48
    Originally posted by Agerg
    I believe Dasa had the remarkable fortune of typing a long string of text (except the first two lines) which almost perfectly matches what is contained in the first link - and that itself was presumably inspired/lifted from the second.

    http://www.iskcondesiretree.net/profiles/blogs/dharma-sanatanadharma
    http://www.asitis.com/introduction.html
    Perhaps we should petition the admins to use these links as a "sticky thread" for vivshvahetu/dasa's posts so he can always be at the top of the thread list, still say the same stuff and be off down the pub for a steak at the same time.
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    06 Mar '11 14:461 edit
    Originally posted by Dasa
    [b]Vedanta does not present mundane religion.......but mundane religion is mostly fabricated and there are many on offer.
    What if you like mundane religion!! 😠

    After all, it seems many here like mundane threads. 😛
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    06 Mar '11 18:05
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    As i've told you before, it's forum etiquette to provide a link (website address) from where you copy and pasted. Pointing this out has nothing today with an 'atheistic nature'.................whatever that may mean.
    Its common knowledge that what I cut and paste is Vedanta.
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    06 Mar '11 18:06
    Originally posted by FMF
    I am a theist. You've been told this repeatedly.
    Then behave like one.
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    06 Mar '11 19:00
    Originally posted by Dasa
    Its common knowledge that what I cut and paste is Vedanta.
    We know, we can read.

    Providing a link has nothing to do with WHAT you've posted but WHERE you've posted it from.

    It's simple manners. Do you know how to post a link?
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    06 Mar '11 23:09
    Originally posted by Dasa
    Then behave like [a theist].
    You mean like, turning a blind eye to plagiarism?
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