The Revelation of the Christian God figure

@kellyjay said
Quality not quantity of the human hearts, getting as many of them as possible, I can only imagine that is the goal, but it can only occur when its a genuine desire not one where He forces Himself on us.

Who's talking about a God "forcing himself on us"?

I think a reasonable state of affairs would have been for pretty much everyone to know that your Christian God exists and that Jesus was divine - after which it'd be up to people's free will as to whether they obeyed his commandments.

That would have been a more effective, fairer and less arbitrary "revelation" scenario.

@fmf said
Who's talking about a God "forcing himself on us"?

I think a reasonable state of affairs would have been for pretty much everyone to know that your Christian God exists and that Jesus was divine - after which it'd be up to people's free will as to whether they obeyed his commandments.

That would have been a more effective, fairer and less arbitrary "revelation" scenario.

So if you were God that would doing what instead of what was done?

@kellyjay said
So if you were God that would doing what instead of what was done?

What? You don't want to read my posts?

@kellyjay said
What makes you think saving as many as possible is the goal

I can't think of any regular posting Christians that have not said, at some point or another, that [the Christian] God wants to "save" as many humans as He can.

@kellyjay said
What makes you think saving as many as possible is the goal, what if it is saving all who are honest in their desire to know him in spite of the worlds pressures, the devils assaults, and our fleshly desires? Quality not quantity of the human hearts, getting as many of them as possible, I can only imagine that is the goal, but it can only occur when its a genuine desire not ...[text shortened]... t them all, but those that want it when God calls, not those that have better or other things to do.

Passages like:

'The Lord is not slow to fulfil his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.' (2 Peter 3:9).

@fmf said
What? You don't want to read my posts?

I want you to answer my question, what would you do differently so please be specific.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Passages like:

'The Lord is not slow to fulfil his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.' (2 Peter 3:9).

And what? He wants us all saved not denying that, but He is not getting what He wants for a reason. If you were God your solution would be?

@kellyjay said
I want you to answer my question, what would you do differently so please be specific.

Are you taking the piss? We are barely half way down page 2 of this thread and you can't be bothered to read the thread's OP?

@kellyjay said
And what? He wants us all saved not denying that, but He is not getting what He wants for a reason. If you were God your solution would be?

You asked, 'What makes you think saving as many as possible is the goal...'?

It is my reply that 2 Peter 3:9 makes clear that 'saving as many as possible' is precisely His goal.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
You asked, 'What makes you think saving as many as possible is the goal...'?

It is my reply that 2 Peter 3:9 makes clear that 'saving as many as possible' is precisely His goal.

KellyJay might think you are trying to "belittle" him.

@fmf said
I can't think of any regular posting Christians that have not said, at some point or another, that [the Christian] God wants to "save" as many humans as He can.

You should start treating everyone as individuals.

@fmf said
Are you taking the piss? We are barely half way down page 2 of this thread and you can't be bothered to read the thread's OP?

Zzzzxx

@ghost-of-a-duke said
You asked, 'What makes you think saving as many as possible is the goal...'?

It is my reply that 2 Peter 3:9 makes clear that 'saving as many as possible' is precisely His goal.

I said I don’t deny that, but why isn’t it occuring? What is more important?

@kellyjay said
I said I don’t deny that, but why isn’t it occuring? What is more important?

A little confusing Kelly. If you don't deny that, why ask 'What makes you think saving as many as possible is the goal? (That implied you 'didn't' think that was the goal).

@ghost-of-a-duke said
A little confusing Kelly. If you don't deny that, why ask 'What makes you think saving as many as possible is the goal? (That implied you 'didn't' think that was the goal).

I am saying that He wants it, but something else is more important.