The Two Witnesses, the Two Golden Lampstands

Originally posted by Pudgenik
Sonship, i heard what you said. My comment wasn't about what you said. Just my own observations.

Oh. And Oh.

I TAKE EVERYTHING PERSONALLY DUDE !!!

Originally posted by sonship
Oh. And Oh.

[b] I TAKE EVERYTHING PERSONALLY DUDE !!! [/b]

Sometimes i just type out my thoughts.

I try not to take things personally, here on this forum. There are those here who choose to engage in healthy debates, and others that fart in the wind just to watch others respond.

Originally posted by Pudgenik
Sometimes i just type out my thoughts.

I try not to take things personally, here on this forum. There are those here who choose to engage in healthy debates, and others that fart in the wind just to watch others respond.

Do you mean when somebody asks something like how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Do you mean when somebody asks something like how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

RJ you know the difference between those with a sense of humor and those who are just plain rude.

Personally i thought the head of a pin comment was good comic relief. We are way to serious at times out here. But there are definitely some that aren't worth responding to.

I was listening to a preacher on the radio, Rev. Jeremiah Johnson, who stated that fire would literally come from their mouths. Maybe he never understood that part in scripture which states that the Word burns in the heart. Or, do you keep your lamp under a basket? No, the lamp, lit with the Fire of God, is to shine.

Originally posted by Pudgenik
I was listening to a preacher on the radio, Rev. Jeremiah Johnson, who stated that fire would literally come from their mouths. Maybe he never understood that part in scripture which states that the Word burns in the heart. Or, do you keep your lamp under a basket? No, the lamp, lit with the Fire of God, is to shine.

This is no different than Roman Catholic Priests claiming that the bread and wine literally turns into the body and blood of Christ in the mouth during the cermony done to remember Christ.

Originally posted by RJHinds
This is no different than Roman Catholic Priests claiming that the bread and wine literally turns into the body and blood of Christ in the mouth during the cermony done to remember Christ.

Transubstantiation takes place at the alter. When the priest raises the bread, and then raises the wine. In both cases saying "this is My body" "this is My blood". Maybe you should read up on it R J; peace of Christ be with you

Originally posted by Pudgenik
Transubstantiation takes place at the alter. When the priest raises the bread, and then raises the wine. In both cases saying "this is My body" "this is My blood". Maybe you should read up on it R J; peace of Christ be with you

I have and my opinion is that Jesus meant this only in a symbolic way, as He did when he referred to His body as a temple.

Originally posted by Rajk999
The Bible says :

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

I would take that to mean that the elect of God cannot be deceived. Probably God guides the elect in the right direction.

and ummm, I'm guessing there aren't any 'elect' here in this forum.


I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

Originally posted by Pudgenik
Who are they, where will they come from, and how will we recognize them?
RJ made a comment in another thread that made me curious. Jesus stated that we should be wary of those who will try to mislead the church/or God's Children. These who will do the misleading will do miracles and show all sorts of signs.

So from Jesus own words, how will we know them ...[text shortened]... d show up wearing sack cloth and preach a misleading message in God's holy city. Just a thought.

I think jaywill was right when he said they are Moses and Elijah. For one reason only. These two never saw death. They were both 'taken up' to God. And yet, scripture tells us every man is to die once, then the Judgment. These two come back, testify for three and a half years (1260 days) and then are killed by the Beast, lay in the street for three and a half days, then resurrected and taken up again. And the world shall see all of this, and this shall be their witness.

If you want to know how to know them, see Revelation 11. Their whole story is there.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I have and my opinion is that Jesus meant this only in a symbolic way, as He did when he referred to His body as a temple.

As He said, "Do this in remembrance of me."

All this "literal blood and body" stuff always weirded me out.

Sounds like the kind of mistake the JWs would make. "Well, He *said* "This is my body", what is it about that you don't get??" Sigh...

Just another literalist mistake. Jesus came and spoke in metaphor, allegory and parable. And yet some people can't recognize the same when it occurs elsewhere in the Bible.

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