Originally posted by Pudgenik
I don't want to get too far off topic, but you mentioned the rapture of those waiting etc. Can you provide at least three text in regards to the rapture as you have stated. Are you certain it will come before the anti-Christ? What if you are wrong?
The question of rapture as regards the coming antichrist is a bit involved. That is because when he first appears he is not necessarily so villainous. It is after he is killed and resuscitated in a Satanic miracle of resurrection, then his most evil personality is manifested.
That is because when he comes back to life it is with the spirit of Caesar Nero from the abyss. That is during the three and one half last years of this age - the great tribulation.
He may first appear as a great world problem solver. He is killed. And he comes back as the most evil being to fight directly against God.
It is the rapture of the overcomers which is the CAUSE of the commencement of the great tribulation.
Let me say so again because few Christian teachers understand this, I feel. It is the rapture of the vigilant, watching, waiting, walking in Spirit overcomers which is the cause
of the coming of the antichrist in his most evil personality. If there is no rapture of at least a remnant of victorious Christians, there will not BE a great tribulation and Antichirst.
Rapture is a strategic
move in the spiritual warfare which is the catalyst
to cause antichrist to come. Have you ever heard this before ? The rapture of some believers triggers
the great tribulation to come.
I think most Christians who believe in a rapture think it is the other way around. And they have some ground to consider it that way. But on closer examination, the coming of Antichrist and the three and one half final years (the great tribulation) are CAUSED by the strategic victory of rapture.
So the secret rapture HAS to be before the most evil manifestation of Antichrist is revealed.
Now to three passages:
Revelation 3:10 - "Because you have kept the word of My endurance, I also will keep you out of the hour of trial, which is about to come on the whole inhabited earth, to try them who dwell on the earth."
This is conditional
. Anything conditional means that some Christians will partake of the promise and some Christians will not. So the first rapture is a remnant, a selection, probably a minority of the total number of believers on the earth.
Matthew 24:40 -44 "At that time two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left. Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left. Watch therefore, for you do not know on what day your Lord comes.
But know this, that it the householder had known in which watch the thief was coming, he would have watched and would not have allowed his house to be broken into. For this reason you also be ready, because at an hour when you do not expect it, the Son of Man is coming."
The flavor of this passage is the same as Revelation 3:10
. It is a warning. Any warning to Christ's disciples has the possibility of being heeded by some and ignored by others.
If rapture here was automatic upon merely being a disciple, then the Lord Jesus would not speak in terms of warning. So like Revelation 3:10
this passage reveals a selection among men. And the selection may include Christian men and women. One taken who heeded the warning and one left who did not heed the warning.
I leave you with two passages right now rather than three.
The reason i ask this is, the importance of the so called rapture is miniscule. Mentioned maybe twice, and the timing of the incident can be debated. Yet the Great Day of the Lord has to be mentioned at least 15 times in multiple books.
The rapture is important. But the first rapture will be selective and not involve the entire body of Christians on the earth. So some the majority of living believers will pass through the great tribulation under Antichrist.
Then they are collected and taken at the end of the last three and one half year great tribulation. The first rapture will be selective. And if we intend to go up we better learn to walk with God as Enoch walked with God, watch, live Christ, and be ready.
When this remnant of overcomers is raptured, Satan will be furiously motivated and have no other choice but to pull out his most lethal weapons upon mankind.