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    26 Jul '17 18:43
    Al last Trump takes effective action!

    A ban on transgenders in the military!
    WTF

    "Leader of the Free World" ... lmao
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    26 Jul '17 18:49
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Al last Trump takes effective action!

    A ban on transgenders in the military!
    WTF

    "Leader of the Free World" ... lmao
    If people would just pay for their own surgeries and hormones as well as not demanding special rights, it would be a non issue.
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    26 Jul '17 18:51
    Originally posted by @eladar
    If people would just pay for their own surgeries and hormones as well as not demanding special rights, it would be a non issue.
    If people would just pay for their own abortions, that would be a non-issue, too.
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    26 Jul '17 19:05
    Originally posted by @moonbus
    If people would just pay for their own abortions, that would be a non-issue, too.
    People who pay for hit men to kill others is fine by you?
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    26 Jul '17 19:501 edit
    British position

    In response, Rear Admiral Burton of the Royal Navy tweeted:
    "As a Royal Navy LGBT champion and senior warfighter I am
    so glad we are not going this way."

    And Second Sea Lord Vice Admiral Jonathan Woodcock tweeted:
    "So proud of our transgender personnel. They bring diversity to
    our Royal Navy and I will always support their desire to serve their country.

    "I suspect many who doubt the abilities of our diverse service personnel
    might be more reluctant to serve than they are to comment."

    In February, the Army's LGBT champion, Lieutenant General Patrick Sanders said:
    "Only if individuals are free to be themselves can we release the genie of their potential."
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    26 Jul '17 19:53
    Originally posted by @eladar
    If people would just pay for their own surgeries and hormones as well as not demanding special rights, it would be a non issue.
    And people should pay for their own private military too.
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    26 Jul '17 20:09
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Al last Trump takes effective action!

    A ban on transgenders in the military!
    WTF

    "Leader of the Free World" ... lmao
    Man! That's some real spiritual stuff.
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    26 Jul '17 20:50
    Originally posted by @eladar
    If people would just pay for their own surgeries and hormones as well as not demanding special rights, it would be a non issue.
    Like a gastric band, for example?
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    26 Jul '17 22:53
    Originally posted by @josephw
    Man! That's some real spiritual stuff.
    What do you think Trump's motivation was?
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    27 Jul '17 04:191 edit
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    What do you think Trump's motivation was?
    To appeal to his ignorant electorate, some of whom were finally beginning to question their support of him.
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    27 Jul '17 04:24
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    To appeal to his ignorant electorate, some of whom were finally beginning to question their support of him.
    I'd say a ban on transgender people in the military was a direct appeal to his base and will strengthen his support among that demographic, while his promise to fight for LGBT rights on the campaign trail is something they probably assumed he wouldn't deliver on - and he hasn't. It will also have been intended as a bit of retail politics that will appeal to certain - and I'd imagine not a small number of - religious and conservative types who believed that Obama allowing transgender people to serve in the military was wrong.
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    27 Jul '17 05:01
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    Like a gastric band, for example?
    Sure
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    27 Jul '17 06:55
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Sure
    Big-boned, slow metabolism and no money for a gastric band. Your excuse list is getting impressive.
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    27 Jul '17 06:57
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    To appeal to his ignorant electorate, some of whom were finally beginning to question their support of him.
    I agree - and I believe them to be largely WASPs and he is appealing to their religious beliefs.
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    27 Jul '17 10:26
    Originally posted by @eladar
    If people would just pay for their own surgeries and hormones as well as not demanding special rights, it would be a non issue.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristin_Beck

    Get back to me on that!!!
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