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Originally posted by FabianFnasWhat about the Orthodox and Oriental Christians? What about those that do not fit into any category, such as the Anglicans? There are also the Nazarine and gnostic traditions which stil survive, albet in smaller numbers.
Catholisism, or protestantism?
03 Jun 08
Originally posted by Bosse de NageSays who? What's the definition of sect and cult?
These are denominations, not sects.
If Sunni and Shiites are sects and cults, then Catolisism and Protestantism are cults and sects too.
Compare with the paralell Thread 94725
03 Jun 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasIt's the going word in English. But 'sect' is probably the wrong word to apply to them as well.
Says who? What's the definition of sect and cult?
If Sunni and Shiites are sects and cults, then Catolisism and Protestantism are cults and sects too.
Compare with the paralell Thread 94725
03 Jun 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasThat is very general.
Catholisism, or protestantism?
Catholisism has shown some progress in that they have acknowledged scientific progress - as some protestant sects have also. However they still say wearing a condom is evil.
I think you would have to get more specific in the exact sect and in what way.
03 Jun 08
When the same thing was asked in the thread "The Worst Sect of Islam", then it was alright to call Sunni or Shiite branch of Islam as "sects".
Why is it okay to call Islam branches as sects, and moreover in a pejorative fashion, and being protective when I call branches of Christianity sects and cults?
Do we have a case of religious racism here...?
03 Jun 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasI don't know enough about Islam to say, but I do know there are people who obey varying degrees of their faith - like most faiths. You'd call these "cafeteria muslims" so to speak.
When the same thing was asked in the thread "The Worst Sect of Islam", then it was alright to call Sunni or Shiite branch of Islam as "sects".
Why is it okay to call Islam branches as sects, and moreover in a pejorative fashion, and being protective when I call branches of Christianity sects and cults?
Do we have a case of religious racism here...?
The problem is how many sects are there and what the specific definition of "sect" is?
As for whether this is a case of religious prejudice, maybe to a certain extent. If we can find different areas where people are applying a different definition of sect based on the religion then that would definitely be worth pointing out as a contradiction.
03 Jun 08
Originally posted by PsychoPawnI have encountered several people who is a member of a definte sect, who at the same time they claim that "Oh, no, I'm not a member of any sect, my christian group is a respectable one!", and in the next breath they say "I am a true christian, and I have every right to beleive that my faith is the only one, and I will go to heaven for it. They, who don't believe the same as I do, will end up in the eternal hell!".
I don't know enough about Islam to say, but I do know there are people who obey varying degrees of their faith - like most faiths. You'd call these "cafeteria muslims" so to speak.
The problem is how many sects are there and what the specific definition of "sect" is?
As for whether this is a case of religious prejudice, maybe to a certain extent. ...[text shortened]... based on the religion then that would definitely be worth pointing out as a contradiction.
This is an example of religious racism. "I am better than you" kind of thinking. "God loves me more than you" kind of thinking. Some Jews use that kind of thinking, some Muslims, and some Christians. That's the bad side of religion.
People in sects tend to think in this way, no matter what religion, or branch of it. So when the Pope think this way "The Catholic way is the only way to live", then the entire Catholic church is a sect.
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Originally posted by FabianFnasWhy is it okay to call Islam branches as sects, and moreover in a pejorative fashion, and being protective when I call branches of Christianity sects and cults?
When the same thing was asked in the thread "The Worst Sect of Islam", then it was alright to call Sunni or Shiite branch of Islam as "sects".
Why is it okay to call Islam branches as sects, and moreover in a pejorative fashion, and being protective when I call branches of Christianity sects and cults?
Do we have a case of religious racism here...?
A sect tends to be a faction within a larger group. For example, in Australia, a clandestine Presbyterian sect has emerged, challenging a number of Presbyterian doctrines, althought it has not formally separated. Protestant and Catholic churches, however, are not sects. They are not factions within a larger church.
The Catholic Church uses the term "cult" to describe different religions. For example, when a Catholic marries a non-baptised, it is called a "disparity of cult". The term is also used to denote individual gatherings at churches, in which there is "the cult of the Eucharist." None of these instances use the term pejoratively. It is probably inaccurate, however, to call Catholicism and Protestantism cults in the context of this thread. It is better to call them denominations. I hope that clarifies.