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How else are we supposed to explain idiotic blind faith of so many?
Originally posted by trev33From Wiki, I have estimated that 2.505 billion adult people on this planet are theists. By adult I mean people between 18 and 65 years age. The christians are 1 billion,muslims are 1 billion,hindus are 0.5 billion,jews are 0.5 million. Total adult population of our planet is about 4.5 billions. So is about half of the total population of earth to be considered idiots?
How else are we supposed to explain idiotic blind faith of so many?
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoFirst you can be wrong without being an idiot.
From Wiki, I have estimated that 2.505 billion adult people on this planet are theists. By adult I mean people between 18 and 65 years age. The christians are 1 billion,muslims are 1 billion,hindus are 0.5 billion,jews are 0.5 million. Total adult population of our planet is about 4.5 billions. So is about half of the total population of earth to be considered idiots?
Originally posted by googlefudgeI have excluded Buddhists, because their 'religion' does not have anything like God. Other religion followers like the sikhs,jains or the zoroastrians etc.are too small in numbers. The total population of earth including the juveniles is about 6.8 billions. I have taken only the adults into the estimate because of simplicity. I am also estimating that the entire adult muslim population is theist, about 80 percent of adult hindus are theists.
First you can be wrong without being an idiot.
There are both really smart and really stupid people in both the theist and atheist camps.
second, I wonder about your numbers, apart from ignoring a whole host of religions...
do the figures of number of religious people include children?
Most religions try to inflate their numbers and so almost certa ...[text shortened]... n gets close to 100%.
This didn't make them right then, and it doesn't make them right now.
Originally posted by googlefudgeThe persistence of 'religious reflex' in humans for thousands of years is now explained by a biologist Jesse Bering as an intrinsic trait carrying powerful evolutionary benefits. To call it as an idiotic blind faith is wrong.
First you can be wrong without being an idiot.
There are both really smart and really stupid people in both the theist and atheist camps.
second, I wonder about your numbers, apart from ignoring a whole host of religions...
do the figures of number of religious people include children?
Most religions try to inflate their numbers and so almost certa ...[text shortened]... n gets close to 100%.
This didn't make them right then, and it doesn't make them right now.
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoMy point was that the numbers of religious people will include children.
I have excluded Buddhists, because their 'religion' does not have anything like God. Other religion followers like the sikhs,jains or the zoroastrians etc.are too small in numbers. The total population of earth including the juveniles is about 6.8 billions. I have taken only the adults into the estimate because of simplicity. I am also estimating that the entire adult muslim population is theist, about 80 percent of adult hindus are theists.
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoI didn't think you believed in evolution? or maybe I am mixing you up with someone else.
The persistence of 'religious reflex' in humans for thousands of years is now explained by a biologist Jesse Bering as an intrinsic trait carrying powerful evolutionary benefits. To call it as an idiotic blind faith is wrong.
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoSince the various religions disagree with each other, there can be absolutely no doubt that the majority of the worlds population is wrong. Whether that is good reason to call them idiots is another matter.
From Wiki, I have estimated that 2.505 billion adult people on this planet are theists. By adult I mean people between 18 and 65 years age. The christians are 1 billion,muslims are 1 billion,hindus are 0.5 billion,jews are 0.5 million. Total adult population of our planet is about 4.5 billions. So is about half of the total population of earth to be considered idiots?
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoI said 'idiotic blind faith' i called no one an idiot.
From Wiki, I have estimated that 2.505 billion adult people on this planet are theists. By adult I mean people between 18 and 65 years age. The christians are 1 billion,muslims are 1 billion,hindus are 0.5 billion,jews are 0.5 million. Total adult population of our planet is about 4.5 billions. So is about half of the total population of earth to be considered idiots?
Originally posted by googlefudgeI repeat that from the religious groups I left out the below 18 age people from total population as well as the atheists before estimating the total theist adults from each religion.Total population of earth 6.8 billions.Total adult believers 2.505 billions out of total adult population of 4.5 billions. Buddhists have not been included in 2.505 billions as they are atheists and a no.of small religions are also left out.
My point was that the numbers of religious people will include children.
So you are comparing number of religious people including children, with
number of people total, without children. you are not comparing like with like.
That said, i think the numbers are irrelevant to the point in hand.
I don't care how many people believe in a religion, or any idea, it doesn't on its
own have any baring on the validity of that idea.
Originally posted by twhiteheadOn the contrary,there is total agreement among various theistic( non Buddhist) religions about the existence of God.
Since the various religions disagree with each other, there can be absolutely no doubt that the majority of the worlds population is wrong. Whether that is good reason to call them idiots is another matter.
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoThere is nowhere that detailed and clear descriptions of the personality of Godhead Sri Krsna can be found other that the Vedanta Sutra.
On the contrary,there is total agreement among various theistic( non Buddhist) religions about the existence of God.
The disagreement is about what is the Denotation and Connotation of the term God. The books differ and the ways to realize God differ. But that was not the point of this thread.The essential point is about the belief in God.
There is no o ...[text shortened]... m ( a well used simile in Hindu philosophy). So various religions have various descriptions etc.
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoBut the fact remains that on many points the majority is necessarily wrong. So any argument that starts with the assumption that the majority are on to something is fundamentally flawed.
On the contrary,there is total agreement among various theistic( non Buddhist) religions about the existence of God.
The disagreement is about what is the Denotation and Connotation of the term God. The books differ and the ways to realize God differ. But that was not the point of this thread.The essential point is about the belief in God.
Originally posted by twhiteheadAlso polytheism used to massively dominate belief systems.
But the fact remains that on many points the majority is necessarily wrong. So any argument that starts with the assumption that the majority are on to something is fundamentally flawed.