1. Standard memberBosse de Nage
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    11 Nov '05 08:54
    “You’ve got to be organized because the country is moving towards a theocracy,” the Rev. Simpson said.

    Anyone read The Handmaid's Tale (Margaret Atwood)? Grimly convincing portrayal of American theocracy at work. Coming to a future near you?
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    11 Nov '05 08:56
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    You really want Shav to show you his unicorn? You're a brave man Nicolaas.
    Unicorn, Shav`s "Unicorn", they both mythical creatures so no difference really.
  3. Standard memberWulebgr
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    18 Feb '06 04:04
    Originally posted by widget
    See God's Politics:

    http://www.alternet.org/wiretap/27745/

    This seems a very promising beginning... 😀
    Even in America, there are a few true Christians walking in the footsteps of Jesus. It's nice to see them get some press.
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    18 Feb '06 05:04
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Even in America, there are a few true Christians walking in the footsteps of Jesus. It's nice to see them get some press.
    That's the worst part of it Wooly - some of my best friends are well-meaning Christians who understand the vital importance of community. Other people I know are truly warped and hiding behing Christianity. :'(
  5. Standard memberroyalchicken
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    18 Feb '06 11:03
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    “You’ve got to be organized because the country is moving towards a theocracy,” the Rev. Simpson said.

    Anyone read The Handmaid's Tale (Margaret Atwood)? Grimly convincing portrayal of American theocracy at work. Coming to a future near you?
    Fantastic book, particularly the epilogue.
  6. Standard memberHalitose
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    18 Feb '06 12:20
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Thinking Christians?

    Show me a thinking Christian, and I'll show you a unicorn.
    Get out more. Your cramped knowledge of Christianity is rather primitive. If ignorance was a disability you’d never be stuck for parking.
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    18 Feb '06 13:00
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Even in America, there are a few true Christians walking in the footsteps of Jesus. It's nice to see them get some press.
    Quaint. Always illuminating when non-Christians determine: 1) whether professing Christians are "true" or not; and, 2) the proximity of their lives to the "footsteps of Jesus."
  8. Standard memberWulebgr
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    18 Feb '06 13:27
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Quaint. Always illuminating when non-Christians determine: 1) whether professing Christians are "true" or not; and, 2) the proximity of their lives to the "footsteps of Jesus."
    Do you see your own assumption here?
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    18 Feb '06 13:331 edit
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Do you see your own assumption here?
    Assuming that a person who doesn't give the NT authority is non-Christian? Explain how the converse is possible.
  10. Standard memberWulebgr
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    18 Feb '06 13:41
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Assuming that a person who doesn't give the NT authority is non-Christian? Explain how the converse is possible.
    Does the NT get its authority from Christians?
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    18 Feb '06 14:11
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Does the NT get its authority from Christians?
    Nay. God. Christians simply acknowledge the same.
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    18 Feb '06 15:12
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Nay. God. Christians simply acknowledge the same.
    Don't you see how that sounds a bit presumptuous?

    Nevertheless, for the sake of argument, let's say that we accept the authority of the Christian texts as certified by God. If we also consider the Qur'an in the same terms, we find some contradictions in the self-revealtion of God. How do we decide the relative merits of the competing claims?

    I submit that nearly everyone that chooses one over the other has read only the one they favor, and comes from or lives in a culture where the majority population favors the same one. If not for the accident of your birth in the United States,* you might just as well be a Muslim as a Christian.

    * I don't know this about you--I'm making an assumption for the sake of argument.
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    18 Feb '06 20:01
    "Thinking Christians" that's an oxymoron.
  14. Standard memberHalitose
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    18 Feb '06 20:09
    Originally posted by Cog
    "Thinking Christians" that's an oxymoron.
    Why is that?
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    18 Feb '06 20:12
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Why is that?
    because if a christian could actually think they wouldn't buy into all that fantasy and fallacy called religion. i wouldn't expect the village idiot to be able to think that through.
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