Originally posted by DoctorScribbles Have you ever referred a gay man to Exodus International for help in seeking freedom from his homosexual affliction?
Originally posted by DoctorScribbles Have you ever referred a gay man to Exodus International for help in seeking freedom from his homosexual affliction?
Originally posted by DoctorScribbles Have you ever referred a gay man to Exodus International for help in seeking freedom from his homosexual affliction?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie nice try Fabs, but ermmm, its for persons that wish to be cured of their unnatural desires,
i refer Fabs and trev33 Doc,
Why do you call it unntural when it is quite common among animals? And animals resides in nature, don't they?
Why did god create homosexual behaviour? Is it a part of the creation, then why try to deny the creation by try to fix it? Isn't gods creation good enough?
Originally posted by FabianFnas Why do you call it unntural when it is quite common among animals? And animals resides in nature, don't they?
Why did god create homosexual behaviour? Is it a part of the creation, then why try to deny the creation by try to fix it? Isn't gods creation good enough?
we've been through all of that, and found that the whole idea of equating animal behaviour with human is fallacious. i propose a test, it is well understood that many animals have multiple sexual partners, why dont you try that in human terms, let me know how far you get. God did not create homosexual behaviour and while we are here are you trying to tell the forum that animals are conscious of their homosexual tendencies, please!
Originally posted by robbie carrobie we've been through all of that, and found that the whole idea of equating animal behaviour with human is fallacious. i propose a test, it is well understood that many animals have multiple sexual partners, why dont you try that in human terms, let me know how far you get. God did not create homosexual behaviour and while we are here are you trying ...[text shortened]... re conscious of their homosexual tendencies, please!
i refer Fabina for double sessions Doc,
Sorry, homosexual love is as valid as heterosexual love. Part of the creation. Jesus held love high, so did St Paul. None of them differed any love from another. Who are just denying part of the creation. Who are you who think yourself higher than your god?
Animals are not sinful. And homosexuality is found among them. So how can a primate of any kind sin by being an active homosexual?
If I pray to god so you can get rid of yor homophobic sinful tendencies, do you think that'll work?
Originally posted by FabianFnas Sorry, homosexual love is as valid as heterosexual love. Part of the creation. Jesus held love high, so did St Paul. None of them differed any love from another. Who are just denying part of the creation. Who are you who think yourself higher than your god?
Animals are not sinful. And homosexuality is found among them. So how can a primate of any kind ...[text shortened]... pray to god so you can get rid of yor homophobic sinful tendencies, do you think that'll work?
you are equating a sexual act, with something that transcends sexuality, perhaps its the one dimensional use of the word 'love', that is to blame, who can tell.
yes you can pray for me, although i do not think that i need to worry whether i shall be struck by lightening any time soon, considering that the act is strongly condemned by my God in the pages of the Bible. Why other so called Christians cannot see this i do not know, i think either they have succumbed to secular liberalism, or have not the integrity to stand up for what has been written!
you are correct animals are not sinful, for they are not conscience of spirituality.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie we've been through all of that, and found that the whole idea of equating animal behaviour with human is fallacious. i propose a test, it is well understood that many animals have multiple sexual partners, why dont you try that in human terms, let me know how far you get. God did not create homosexual behaviour and while we are here are you trying ...[text shortened]... re conscious of their homosexual tendencies, please!
i refer Fabina for double sessions Doc,
God did not create homosexual behaviour.
Has he told you this in person?
Are your views what the JW's teach Robbie or are they your own? Have you always had these views or only since you became a JW?
Originally posted by Proper Knob [b]God did not create homosexual behaviour.
Has he told you this in person?
Are your views what the JW's teach Robbie or are they your own? Have you always had these views or only since you became a JW?[/b]
that you cannot equate animal behaviour and human behaviour is self evident! why would God create something that he condemns in the Bible? make any sense Noobster, nope, i didn't think so! These are not my views, they are expressed throughout the pages of Gods Word. They do not originate with me, i did not write them! i merely have placed myself under Gods sovereignty and thus I am prepared to accept his standards of morality, rather than to establish my own, as you people are evidently doing.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie that you cannot equate animal behaviour and human behaviour is self evident! why would God create something that he condemns in the Bible? make any sense Noobster, nope, i didn't think so!
How can you keep from getting involved in homosexual practices?
First Throw all your anxieties upon Jehovah in prayer, confident that “he cares for you.” (1 Peter 5:7; Psalm 55:22) Jehovah can fortify you with a peace that “excels all thought.” This can ‘guard your heart and your mental powers’ and give you “power beyond what is normal” to keep from acting on wrong desires. (Philippians 4:7; 2 Corinthians 4:7) Sarah, who struggled with the fear that she might be bisexual, says: “Whenever my thoughts disturb me, I pray; and Jehovah sustains me. Without his help I couldn’t have dealt with this problem. Prayer is my lifeline!”—Psalm 94:18, 19; Ephesians 3:20.
Second Fill your mind with upbuilding spiritual thoughts. (Philippians 4:8) Read the Bible daily. Never underestimate its power to shape your mind and heart for good. (Hebrews 4:12) A young man named Jason says: “The Bible—including scriptures such as 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10 and Ephesians 5:3—has had a powerful effect on me. I read these scriptures whenever wrong desires occur.”
Third Shun pornography and gay propaganda, which will only fuel wrong thoughts.# (Psalm 119:37; Colossians 3:5, 6) Some motion pictures and television programs also foster the belief that homosexuality is nothing more than a so-called alternative lifestyle. “The world’s warped thinking affected my mind and added to my sexual confusion,” says Anna. “Now I steer clear of anything or anyone that promotes homosexuality.”—Proverbs 13:20.
Fourth Seek out a confidant, and talk to him or her about your thoughts. (Proverbs 23:26; 31:26; 2 Timothy 1:1, 2; 3:10) Olef, who sought the help of a Christian elder, recalls: “His counsel was very effective. I wished I had spoken to him a lot earlier.”
This one time, at Exodus International camp...
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