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I used to think that "Thou shalt not judge" was one of the Ten Commandments. Every time I saw someone judging I would say "stop judging! The bible says you shouldn't judge, it's one of Gods commandments"
No one knew the commandments so no one ever told me "You're wrong". Most of the time they would just apologise for that. I used to do this all the time until I saw a movie about the Ten Commandments. I soon started reading the bible also and found that I was wrong....God tells us in the Old and New Testament to judge righteously several times. Crazy right? We all think think because Jesus said "Judge not lest you be judged" that he meant never to judge at all. He later goes on to say to pluck out the log in our own eye BEFORE trying to take the speck out our brothers. He also says "Judge not by appearance but GIVE righteous judgement".
He's telling us to clean up our own act before trying to clean up someone else's. in fact I was wrongfully judging people by saying "Thou shalt not judge" all the time. I was a hypocrite who didn't fix my own acts when I was saying that. I just thought I should share this little story because whenever I post a bible verse that someone doesn't like...I always get that "Hey stop judging!" Or "The bible says not to judge!". Please, take the log out of your own eye brothers/sisters.
John 7:24
1 Cor. 5:11-13
1 Cor. 2:15
Ezekiel 22:2
Deuteronomy 16:18-20
Leviticus 19:15
Deuteronomy 1:16-17
1 Samuel 7:15
Originally posted by RBHILLIsn't it obvious that there is a difference between judging someone [condemning] and using judgement about someone [discernment]?
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I used to think that "Thou shalt not judge" was one of the Ten Commandments. Every time I saw someone judging I would say "stop judging! The bible says you shouldn't judge, it's one of Gods commandments"
No one knew the commandments so no one ever told me "You' ...[text shortened]... 15
Ezekiel 22:2
Deuteronomy 16:18-20
Leviticus 19:15
Deuteronomy 1:16-17
1 Samuel 7:15
Or do you mean something else?
Originally posted by divegeesterI think you are on to something here, we are to walk without fault, but we
Isn't it obvious that there is a difference between judging someone [condemning] and using judgement about someone [discernment]?
Or do you mean something else?
know that is frigging impossible. Condemning someone basically ends all
the discussion right there and then, they are judged and forever wrong.
While using discernment we can see the wrong, but not condemn instead
try to heal, cause repentance, whatever is needed. I like the story Jesus
told about the guy who owed a great debt that was forgiven him, but he
would not free someone from a debt of a trifle amount. When that got back
the one that let him go of a great debt, he became very angry and laid it
all back on him. We all come up short so we all need to be more willing to
forgive than condemn, if we want mercy we need to also show it.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayMercy triumphs over judgement.
I think you are on to something here, we are to walk without fault, but we
know that is frigging impossible. Condemning someone basically ends all
the discussion right there and then, they are judged and forever wrong.
While using discernment we can see the wrong, but not condemn instead
try to heal, cause repentance, whatever is needed. I like the stor ...[text shortened]... ed to be more willing to
forgive than condemn, if we want mercy we need to also show it.
Kelly
Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.
Matthew 9:13 But you go and learn what this means:'I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,' for I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. "
Matthew 12:7 But if you had known what this means, 'I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the guiltless.
Originally posted by johnnylongwoodyThey are judged and condemned to punishment and even death by man made courts. Is this not an example to us of how Christ's judgment will be?
People judge each other all the time.
The Bible has a book of judges and in our legal
system ( worldwide ) people are judged all the time.
Since time immemorial people have been judged and always will be.
I believe righteous judgment by a Christian is necessary to bring the sins of others to their attention as a warning, so they can repent and avoid the final judgment and condemnation of the second death in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone. If we warn them by righteous judgment and even condemnation, they might be motivated to look to Christ for salvation and avoid the second death before it is too late.. What kind of Christian would not warn one he believes is heading for the Lake of Fire and Brimstone so that person has a chance to avoid it?