Trinity 101

At 18 our convictions are hills from which we look; At 45 they are caves in which we hide.
F. Scott Fitzgerald

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

"I am a God who is everywhere and not in one place only...' (Jeremiah 23).

Could you be a little more careful about your references? Jeremiah chapter 23? Or Jeremiah verse 23? or what?

Good News Translation?

23 "I am a God who is everywhere and not in one place only.

Jeremiah 23:23 - GNT.

You seem fond of the N ...[text shortened]... b]American Standard Version[/b]
Am I a God at hand, saith Jehovah, and not a God afar off? [/quote]

"I am a God who is everywhere and not in one place only...' (Jeremiah 23).

The '...' was for your benefit sonship.

I'm perfectly content with the reference i provided.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

The '...' was for your benefit sonship.

I'm perfectly content with the reference i provided.

I noticed that this time you used the ellipses.
And I made no comment about that.

I made a comment about paraphrase and more literal renderings.

I'm perfectly content with the reference i provided.

Okay.
I didn't say it was wrong.

Sometimes though, paraphrase is wrong.
Ie. "Put on the new self" verses "Put on the new man".

"spirit, soul and body" verses "spirit and soul and body"

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

The '...' was for your benefit sonship.

I'm perfectly content with the reference i provided.

I noticed that this time you used the ellipses.
And I made no comment about that.

I made a comment about paraphrase and more literal renderings.

I'm perfectly content with the reference i provided.

Okay.
I didn't ...[text shortened]... s "Put on the new man".

"spirit, soul and body" verses "spirit and soul and body"

As a non-believer, the nuances of the different translations means very little to me. Sorry.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

As a non-believer, the nuances of the different translations means very little to me. Sorry.

No problem.

@chaney3 said
It's been interesting to follow the dispute between Suzianne and Dive regarding what the trinity actually is.

Trinity and Godhead seem exactly the same.

The former is (one) explanation of the latter which is mearly a noun for the collective essence of God.

The former is (one) explanation of the latter which is mearly a noun for the collective essence of God.

Do you think your phrase "the collective essence of God" is completely free from misunderstanding by some?

You had one "essence" speaking to, obeying, living unto, another "essence".

You had one "essence" as the sender and the other "essence" as the one sent.

We have one "essence" PRAYING TO the other "essence".

We have one "essence" LOVING the other "essence".

Is your " the collective essence of God" that much better then "three distinct but not separate Persons" ?

@sonship said
Do you think your phrase "the collective essence of God" is completely free from misunderstanding by some?

No. You’ve clearly got it wrong.

@sonship said
We have one "essence" LOVING the other "essence".

Show me the “one essence loving the other essence” biblical reference? I sense this is another error by you.

@suzianne said
"Trinity and Godhead seem exactly the same."

It is what it is.

Thank goodness you’re here!