Trinity in the Old Testament

Originally posted by RJHinds
John 14:16
John 14:26
John 15:26

These surely make it clear that God sends the holy spirit forth?

Originally posted by shavixmir
These surely make it clear that God sends the holy spirit forth?

I was looking at the King James Version of the Holy Bible. Look at those verses from that translation and see what you think. You make up your mind if you agree with the western or the eastern Church or neither. It is all up to you. I have no more for you.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Well will you at least admit that the Watchtower Society is wrong when they say Jesus was once Michael the archangel? That was never taught or mentioned in the holy Bible.

You know that the Word became the Son (John 1), so why doesn't the following two verses teach the trinity?

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the nam ...[text shortened]... , the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

1 John 5:7 KJV)

Nope and no arguements about the facts I posted? Can you show by scripture that those are not correct?

Why, if the Godhead is a mystery, do folks try to explain it?

Why, if the source of truth concerning the Godhead is taken from the Word of God, do folks say the Godhead is a mystery?

Why, if the Godhead is explained by the Word of God, do folks have different ideas about the a Godhead?

Because the Word of God is not understood by the reader. The Word of God is clear, but the reader isn't.

Romans 14:5b
Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

Originally posted by galveston75
Nope and no arguements about the facts I posted? Can you show by scripture that those are not correct?

I have been over this before with you guys and both of you get amnesia everytime. So I am going to pass this time, since I have determined that you don't want to know the truth anyway.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I have been over this before with you guys and both of you get amnesia everytime. So I am going to pass this time, since I have determined that you don't want to know the truth anyway.

Good answer as you know you can't as you never have.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Heresies

Modalism

Modalism, also called Sabellianism, is the unorthodox belief that God is one person who has revealed himself in three forms or modes in contrast to the Trinitarian doctrine where God is one being eternally existing in three persons. According to Modalism, during the incarnation, Jesus was simply God acting in one mode or rol ...[text shortened]... rsons: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit."

http://www.theopedia.com/Modalism

Oh my gosh thank you so much for this link to someone who agrees with your point of view. I now completely renounce my point of view and will listen to you.

🙄

Originally posted by RJHinds
I have been over this before with you guys and both of you get amnesia everytime. So I am going to pass this time, since I have determined that you don't want to know the truth anyway.

That's it RJ.

Obfuscate, deny and repeat. It is the holy trinity of the beguiled.

Originally posted by galveston75
Good answer as you know you can't as you never have.

That is your amnesia that I was referring to.

Originally posted by RJHinds
That is your amnesia that I was referring to.

Lol..... Oh well at least you try.

Originally posted by josephw
Why, if the Godhead is a mystery, do folks try to explain it?

Why, if the source of truth concerning the Godhead is taken from the Word of God, do folks say the Godhead is a mystery?

Why, if the Godhead is explained by the Word of God, do folks have different ideas about the a Godhead?

Because the Word of God is not understood by the reader. The Wor ...[text shortened]... clear, but the reader isn't.

Romans 14:5b
Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit - three in one God.

That is a statement of fact, not an explanation of the Godhead. Where did you come up with the idea it was explaining the Godhead? That seems to make the Godhead more of a mystery to me.

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

(1 Timothy 3:16)

Originally posted by josephw

Why, if the Godhead is a mystery, do folks try to explain it?

Maybe because God is so enjoyable that they want to.

Something like "the birds and the bees" was used as a catch phrase to explain sex.

Why, if the source of truth concerning the Godhead is taken from the Word of God, do folks say the Godhead is a mystery?

Folks say it because the Bible says it TO folks.
Scripture says "the mystery of God, Christ" (Col. 2:2)

Can you blame folks for just saying what the Bible said about this?

Why, if the Godhead is explained by the Word of God, do folks have different ideas about the a Godhead?

When we are short on experience, we tend to have different arguments and opinions.

Notice I did say "we".