Originally posted by @sonshipSo when you say The saved get to be forgiven of every sin they ever committed that is the "final judgment - divine enforcement"?
The difference is that with the Christian world view there is a final judgment - divine enforcement. With the atheist / naturalist worldview there is none.
Originally posted by @fmfBut when one is saved (as opposed to just "declaring" it unilaterally), they are no longer the same person.
So if a person who declares themselves to be "saved" but does remain the same kind of person [in terms of "sinning"] as he or she was before being "saved", it can be undone by "God"?
Originally posted by @fmf“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Evidence of this [in terms of "sinning"]?
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
(2 Corinthians 5:17-21)