1. Standard memberRajk999
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    14 Jul '17 11:47
    The Bible speaks of two Kingdoms. Im not certain myself of the details. If there are any learned Christians out there willing to discuss and share ideas, please participate.

    For starters here is one passage:

    For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
    But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits;
    afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
    Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,
    even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
    For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
    The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
    For he hath put all things under his feet.
    But when he saith all things are put under him,
    it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
    And when all things shall be subdued unto him,
    then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him,
    that God may be all in all. (1 Corinthians 15:22-28 KJV)
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    17 Jul '17 14:341 edit
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    The Bible speaks of two Kingdoms. Im not certain myself of the details. If there are any learned Christians out there willing to discuss and share ideas, please participate.

    For starters here is one passage:

    For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
    But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits;
    afterward they ...[text shortened]... im that put all things under him,
    that God may be all in all. (1 Corinthians 15:22-28 KJV)
    Some of the characteristics of these two Kingdoms:

    Restoration of Israel / World Period
    - Jesus Christ reigns and is King of Israel, sits on Davids throne for 1000 yrs
    - Satan bound in the beginning of this period
    - Sin and evil still exists
    - Saints rule over the mortal humans
    - Death still exists and is only eliminated at the every end.
    - Satan and his followers are eliminated.
    - The final judgment of Matt 25 and Rev 20 ends this period and starts the next.

    Characteristics of the Kingdom of God / New Jerusalem
    - God reigns for all eternity and has been prepared from the foundation of the world
    - Jesus Christ's reign with His saints is over, all are subservient to God
    - God is all in all meaning that all in this Kingdom are perfected immortal Saints
    - no sin and evil in this Kingdom
    - no mortal bodies in this Kingdom all are eternal beings
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    17 Jul '17 22:52
    There is only one kingdom seen from two perspectives.

    The first is universal, i.e., the Kingdom of God encompassing all that God has created.

    The second is concerned with the nation of Israel on earth.

    Try not to over complicate it Rajk.
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    17 Jul '17 23:141 edit
    Originally posted by josephw
    There is only one kingdom seen from two perspectives.

    The first is universal, i.e., the Kingdom of God encompassing all that God has created.

    The second is concerned with the nation of Israel on earth.

    Try not to over complicate it Rajk.
    Try not to over simplify it Josephw.. What does the Bible say?

    The first is Christ reign
    The second is the Kingdom of God
    Connected yes as the first is preparation for the second better one.
    Two rulers
    Two locations
    Two kinds of people and environment

    If you want to talk, then talk from the Bible.
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    18 Jul '17 04:22
    Originally posted by josephw
    Try not to over complicate it Rajk.
    overcomplicate 100 times please OR SEE ME AFTER SCHOOL
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    18 Jul '17 11:06
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    [b]overcomplicate 100 times please OR SEE ME AFTER SCHOOL[/b]
    I think you should do more of that around here. 🙂
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