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Originally posted by ahosyneyWhat is your problem? Do you care about anything except what you believe?
What is you problem? If you don't believe it is true why care.
You have also noticed this is a debate forum, I take it.
Originally posted by ahosyneyWhat proportion of Muslims overall take literally the teaching that infidels go to hell?
[b]I am not saying all muslims are violent or bad people. And to all that I offended with my anger I apologize.
I'm a Muslim, and I have been talking here for almost a year now. I got very angey when someone like talks about my faith without any knowladge.
What my faith has to do with what you say?
What do you know about my faith to blame it ...[text shortened]... o whom do you apologize? To the Millions of Muslims who you called their faith with this stuff?[/b]
Originally posted by PawnokeyholeI'm not saying to you don't talk, I'm asking you about what bother you about that?
What is your problem? Do you care about anything except what you believe?
You have also noticed this is a debate forum, I take it.
Originally posted by PawnokeyholeWhat proportion of Muslims overall take literally the teaching that infidels go to hell?
What proportion of Muslims overall take literally the teaching that infidels go to hell?
That would be a good barometer of the merits of Islam and those who profess it.
Originally posted by ahosyneyYou believe that Islam is true, so you believe in GOD, and you will be in heaven.
I'm not saying to you don't talk, I'm asking you about what bother you about that?
There are two options here:
1- You believe that Islam is true, so you believe in GOD, and you will be in heaven. And if so, you don't have to worry about hell or what happen in it. Why bother yourself?
2- You believe that Islam is not true. So there is no hell. And eve in GOD because he punish those who don't believe in him doesn't make any sense to me.
Originally posted by KingDavid403As you can see he is not believing in GOD at all. And he refusing to believe in GOD, and so all religions. And he is raising the point of Hell here and I was answering him. So this discussion doesn't apply to you. It will not fit your position.
[b]You believe that Islam is true, so you believe in GOD, and you will be in heaven.
Well I don't believe in the Islam religon. And I very much believe in GOD. And I believe in one God. And I'm a christian. And I know I will be in heaven with God when I die. I also believe very much in hell.
What you are saying here is if I don't belie ...[text shortened]... I don't believe in God or that I don't believe in hell. Or that I don't worship God.[/b]
Originally posted by ahosyneyWhy bother about anything? I like debating. To clarify issues for myself and for others.
I'm not saying to you don't talk, I'm asking you about what bother you about that?
There are two options here:
1- You believe that Islam is true, so you believe in GOD, and you will be in heaven. And if so, you don't have to worry about hell or what happen in it. Why bother yourself?
2- You believe that Islam is not true. So there is no hell. And ...[text shortened]... eve in GOD because he punish those who don't believe in him doesn't make any sense to me.
Originally posted by ahosyneyWell, if all Muslims believe that infidels will go to hell, then all Muslims are metaphysically naive, intellectually backward, and morally twisted. I suspect quite a few Muslims don't really believe this.
[b]What proportion of Muslims overall take literally the teaching that infidels go to hell?
All Muslims believe that infidels will go to hell.
But what this has to do with any thing. Do you want me to say that those who deny GOD existance will be in heaven? I don't think you will make any sense if you did so.
What merits is behind that? Actual ...[text shortened]... tought to kill infidals because they are in hell , then you don't know anything about Islam.[/b]
Originally posted by PawnokeyholeWhy bother about anything? I like debating. To clarify issues for myself and for others.
Why bother about anything? I like debating. To clarify issues for myself and for others.
In this instance, I am also interested in what makes people believe farfetched and offensive things with unswerving conviction--like, for example, that all people not professing Islam will go to hell.
You are incorrect in assuming that the only possibilities t ...[text shortened]... t makes no sense to you to believe in a God who doesn't punish those who do not believe in Him?
Originally posted by PawnokeyholeDo you understand what are saying?
Well, if all Muslims believe that infidels will go to hell, then all Muslims are metaphysically naive, intellectually backward, and morally twisted. I suspect quite a few Muslims don't really believe this.
Believing in hell for people who think differently from you is a form of ignorant, hateful, xenophobia.
I think the concept of God who doesn't ...[text shortened]... nd anyone to hell is more coherent and enlightened than the perverted alternative you present.
Originally posted by ahosyneyI don't think you put me in hell. I think you think that God puts voluntary non-Muslims in hell. Am I incorrect?
Do you understand what are saying?
I can't stop laughing. You are not making any sense.
Do you think that me as a Muslim who will put you in hell because you think different than me?
I think you should review your idea about what hell is, and when someone go to hell, and who decide that someone go to hell.
[b]I think the concept of God who doesn ...[text shortened]... f GOD exists and he punishes those who don't believe in him in Hell?
Have a nice time[/b]
Originally posted by webbinatorWhy do we have to "understand" islam? Who cares? Islam is just like the others: a fraud, a sham, a waste of time. I'm sick to death of all those muslims. I have NO respect for islam. I'm tired of hearing about the friggin' Palestinians. I'm sick of left-wing radio (i.e. NPR) and other bleeding heart liberals pitying the poor palestians. they (the lazy Palestinians ought to get off there male hauvinistic ass's and do something besides blowing up people!
http://www.islam-guide.com/
Originally posted by StregoneIt must be awful to have such hate rotting away your heart. You're a person worthy of much pity.
Why do we have to "understand" islam? Who cares? Islam is just like the others: a fraud, a sham, a waste of time. I'm sick to death of all those muslims. I have NO respect for islam. I'm tired of hearing about the friggin' Palestinians. I'm sick of left-wing radio (i.e. NPR) and other bleeding heart liberals pitying the poor palestians. they (the lazy Pales ...[text shortened]... ought to get off there male hauvinistic ass's and do something besides blowing up people!