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    17 Oct '09 07:31
    Does anyone think there is a virture in being an atheist? Perhaps you view yourself as more rational than the person of faith? Perhaps you view yourself as the defender of truth in that you only support what you can prove?
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    17 Oct '09 07:41
    Originally posted by whodey
    Does anyone think there is a virture in being an atheist? Perhaps you view yourself as more rational than the person of faith? Perhaps you view yourself as the defender of truth in that you only support what you can prove?
    'virthure of ahteism'?

    Are you drunk?
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    17 Oct '09 07:47
    Originally posted by whodey
    Does anyone think there is a virture in being an atheist? Perhaps you view yourself as more rational than the person of faith? Perhaps you view yourself as the defender of truth in that you only support what you can prove?
    I don't think there's any virtue in believing or not.
    Virtue arises out of how you live your life. In my experience that has very little to do with belief or lack of it.
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    17 Oct '09 09:021 edit
    Originally posted by LemonJello
    'virthure of ahteism'?

    Are you drunk?
    (Hiccup) nooper, why doooyu asssk?
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    17 Oct '09 09:04
    Originally posted by amannion
    I don't think there's any virtue in believing or not.
    Virtue arises out of how you live your life. In my experience that has very little to do with belief or lack of it.
    Indeed, virture is derived from HOW you live your life. However, is not how you live your life based upon what you believe?
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    17 Oct '09 09:30
    Originally posted by whodey
    Indeed, virture is derived from HOW you live your life. However, is not how you live your life based upon what you believe?
    Perhaps for you, but since I don't believe I must live my life on other principles.
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    17 Oct '09 13:29
    Originally posted by whodey
    Does anyone think there is a virture in being an atheist? Perhaps you view yourself as more rational than the person of faith? Perhaps you view yourself as the defender of truth in that you only support what you can prove?
    I think there is virtue in being honest - with yourself and with others. I am less clear as to why one should seek to be virtuous.
    I find that more atheists than Christians are honest when it comes to their beliefs but that is not a universal rule in any way.
    I certainly view myself as more rational than the average theist - though I have spoken to rather irrational atheists as well. I am not sure if being rational is a virtue. I guess being irrational can make life a bit more interesting. Certainly when it comes to love, I have been somewhat irrational in the past, and I don't think I regret it. But I am honest about it and admit that I was irrational.
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    17 Oct '09 13:50
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    [b]I think there is virtue in being honest - with yourself and with others.
    Ok, ok, perhaps I did have a litttle much to drink last night. In fact, it seems I made the video of the day. You can watch me if you like.

    http://www.glenbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/31982/
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    17 Oct '09 13:521 edit
    Originally posted by amannion
    Perhaps for you, but since I don't believe I must live my life on other principles.
    What I mean is, you claim to believe in "other" principles. So it is by your beliefs that you live your life. THat is why our beliefs are so vital to us.

    Having said that, are we really that much different? Christ claimed that the two biggy laws were to love God with all your heart, and soul, and mind and to do unto others as they would do to you. If you obey these two laws, then you keep the entire law.

    So how about it, can we at least agree with the golden rule of doing unto others as they would have done to you?
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    17 Oct '09 13:55
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    . I am not sure if being rational is a virtue. I guess being irrational can make life a bit more interesting.
    If so, all women lack virtue!! 😛

    Er...um....there are no women on the site.....right? 😳
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    17 Oct '09 13:56
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I Certainly when it comes to love, I have been somewhat irrational in the past, and I don't think I regret it. But I am honest about it and admit that I was irrational.
    You raise an interesting point here. In fact, love is what gives our life meaning. So essentially you are saying that the most vital aspect to our existence is rooted in something irrational and not tangible.
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    17 Oct '09 14:111 edit
    There is no virtu in atheism. Nor in theism.

    Virtu may stem from a belief system, but it neither produces nor is produced by one.
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    17 Oct '09 14:24
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    Virtu may stem from a belief system, but it neither produces nor is produced by one.[/b]
    Is it just me, or does this sound a little contradictory?
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    17 Oct '09 14:541 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Is it just me, or does this sound a little contradictory?
    u


    Key word: may


    Proper application of proper principles produces virtu. Neither atheism nor theism necessarily produce these principles, although either may.
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    17 Oct '09 20:02
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    u


    Key word: may


    Proper application of proper principles produces virtu. Neither atheism nor theism necessarily produce these principles, although either may.
    I think it is kinda like the scripture that says to be a doer of the word, and not a hearer only. What good is the message if you do not apply it to your life? If you don't apply it, it will shrival up and die. You might say that you should use it or lose it.
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