Warning: Long, Messy Post.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
I am surprised anyone can find such security through their belief in some dominant being who orders people around and threatens them and who they cannot safely rebel against without horrific punishment in consequence.

They find security because of their belief in the infinite justice of God.

Bumped for a later read.

Edit: Shamelessly.

Originally posted by lucifershammer
They find security because of their belief in the infinite justice of God.

He may impose what he believes to be infinite justice onto us, but he certainly doesn't impose it on himself.

Originally posted by scottishinnz
He may impose what he believes to be infinite justice onto us, but he certainly doesn't impose it on himself.

He is (in a sense) infinite justice. So there's no question of Him "imposing" it on Himself - He can do nothing but be infinitely just.

What you're doing, on the other hand, is using your limited notion of justice to judge Him.

Originally posted by lucifershammer
He is (in a sense) infinite justice. So there's no question of Him "imposing" it on Himself - He can do nothing but be infinitely just.

What you're doing, on the other hand, is using your limited notion of justice to judge Him.

Do you mean perfectly just, or infinitely just? I don't know what the latter claim would amount to.

Originally posted by bbarr
Do you mean perfectly just, or infinitely just? I don't know what the latter claim would amount to.

I suppose it's "perfect" justice.

Originally posted by lucifershammer
I suppose it's "perfect" justice.

So, when you say God is perfectly just, is that "is" one of predication or identity?