14 Feb 08
According to the U.S. Biblical scholar, Morton Smith, of Columbia University, a fragment of manuscript he found at the Mar Saba monastery near Jerusalem in 1958, showed that the full text of St. Mark chapter 10 (between verses 34 and 35 in the standard version of the Bible) contains a passage which includes the following text. --
"And the youth, looking upon him (Jesus), loved him and beseeched that he might remain with him. And going out of the tomb, they went into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days, Jesus instructed him and, at evening, the youth came to him wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God".
Interesting.
15 Feb 08
Originally posted by abnoxioYou are a pervert mind. They were playing chess... nothing more
According to the U.S. Biblical scholar, Morton Smith, of Columbia University, a fragment of manuscript he found at the Mar Saba monastery near Jerusalem in 1958, showed that the full text of St. Mark chapter 10 (between verses 34 and 35 in the standard version of the Bible) contains a passage which includes the following text. --
"And the youth, looking ...[text shortened]... with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God".
Interesting.
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15 Feb 08
Originally posted by abnoxioDoes it matter if he was? Jesus being gay shouldn't change anything for religious Christians (but it would).
According to the U.S. Biblical scholar, Morton Smith, of Columbia University, a fragment of manuscript he found at the Mar Saba monastery near Jerusalem in 1958, showed that the full text of St. Mark chapter 10 (between verses 34 and 35 in the standard version of the Bible) contains a passage which includes the following text. --
"And the youth, looking ...[text shortened]... with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God".
Interesting.
And anyway... I don't interpret it that way.
15 Feb 08
Originally posted by UzumakiAiIt would be so much easier for Christians and Christianity if they could somehow accept homosexuality. I know that some very liberal sects have, but when you do you have no choice to to stray from a literal interpretation of scripture. Which is probably a good idea anyway.
Does it matter if he was? Jesus being gay shouldn't change anything for religious Christians (but it would).
And anyway... I don't interpret it that way.
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16 Feb 08
Originally posted by abnoxioThese verses do not suggest anything gay. As with gnostic texts, one which claims that Jesus kissed Mary Magdalene on the lips, the sexual innuendo actually represents a spiritual intimacy. In this passage, the sexual connotation suggests roundaboutly that Jesus conveyed unique spiritual knowledge denied to other disciples.
According to the U.S. Biblical scholar, Morton Smith, of Columbia University, a fragment of manuscript he found at the Mar Saba monastery near Jerusalem in 1958, showed that the full text of St. Mark chapter 10 (between verses 34 and 35 in the standard version of the Bible) contains a passage which includes the following text. --
"And the youth, looking ...[text shortened]... with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God".
Interesting.
16 Feb 08
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Originally posted by abnoxioWhy are you suggesting the "easier" way should be taken? We know that the way of discipleship will not be easy.
It would be so much easier for Christians and Christianity if they could somehow accept homosexuality. I know that some very liberal sects have, but when you do you have no choice to to stray from a literal interpretation of scripture. Which is probably a good idea anyway.
16 Feb 08
Originally posted by Conrau KYes it's true that apocryphal and gnostic texts are up for interpretation, just as the canonical. But my question is why are the canonical taken seriously while most mainstream Christians view these texts ( apocryphal and gnostic ,as well as gospels that were tossed out such as the Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Peter....etc) as heresy? Because of the Council of Nicaea's decision? Do people even understand this? Perhaps, and I find it likely, that Christianity started early a gnostic sect. And chips.
These verses do not suggest anything gay. As with gnostic texts, one which claims that Jesus kissed Mary Magdalene on the lips, the sexual innuendo actually represents a spiritual intimacy. In this passage, the sexual connotation suggests roundaboutly that Jesus conveyed unique spiritual knowledge denied to other disciples.