Originally posted by xxxenophobePerhaps you should look up the book of mathew, and the original greek translations.
http://www.olivebranch.com/biblestories/jonah.htm
http://www.virtualchurch.org/jonah.htm
To settle this:
Old testament : great fish
New Testament : whale
In the bible all sealiving creatures are assigned the role of "fish". A whale could be a great fish, or it could just be a great big fish. Jesus in Mathew says whale.
Decide on your own, believe what you want, but just don't believe it because you read it here.
Nyxie
Originally posted by xxxenophobeWell if you just wanna argue 🙂
http://www.thercg.org/questions/p134.a.html
i think im just arguin fer the sake of it now.. sorry...
but id go with the older book if i wer Christian.
I'd think Christian should mean trying to be like or being unto Christ, I'll take his word for it.
Seems we've reached an impasse of biblical proportions.
Nyxie
Originally posted by no1marauderty saved me the look up ..
Jonah 1: 17 uses a "great fish" in all the versions I can find. Interestingly, though, when Jesus says the Son of Man will be in the Earth for three days just as Jonah was in -------, the American Standard Version and the King James Version use "whale" in Matthew 12:40. I wonder if the ancient Hebrews even knew what a whale was.
For a bunch of versions of the Bible go to: http://www.biblegateway.com/
Jonah himself wrote "fish" aint my fault if he was mistaken.
He was supposed to be a prophet he ought to have forseen we'd find out a whale isn't a fish.
Originally posted by no1marauderAll flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men,another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. I Corinthians 15:39
It's not Jonah's fault that nobody had explained the evolutionary tree of animals to him.
There is the sea, great and wide, in which are innumerable living things, both small and large animals Psalm 104:25
They called them all fish. Unless it was a creepy crawly, like the serpent.
Originally posted by NyxieThe King James Version mentions "whale" twice in the Old Testament but not in Jonah.
All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men,another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. I Corinthians 15:39
There is the sea, great and wide, in which are innumerable living things, both small and large animals Psalm 104:25
They called them all fish. Unless it was a creepy crawly, like the serpent.
Job 7:12
Ezekiel 32:2
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Originally posted by no1marauderYes but look up the original hebrew. You should find the term "great fish".
The King James Version mentions "whale" twice in the Old Testament but not in Jonah.
Job 7:12
Ezekiel 32:2
edit: hebrew term "dag gadol" = great fish.
In Mathew as stated by Jesus it is ketos greek for whale, as said in reference to Jonah, not the greek word for fish.
Originally posted by NyxieSorry, I don't have original Hebrew versions of the Old Testament lying around the mansion nor an ancient Hebrew to translate them for me if I had the manuscripts.
Yes but look up the original hebrew. You should find the term "great fish".
In Mathew as stated by Jesus it is ketos greek for whale, as said in reference to Jonah, not the greek word for fish.
It's unclear to me whether the Greek word ketos referred solely to whales or to any large sea creature. Where's Nemesio when you need him (which is almost never)?
Originally posted by no1marauderCetology is'nt a big enough hint for you? (that's the study of whales)
Sorry, I don't have original Hebrew versions of the Old Testament lying around the mansion nor an ancient Hebrew to translate them for me if I had the manuscripts.
It's unclear to me whether the Greek word ketos referred solely to whales or to any large sea creature. Where's Nemesio when you need him (which is almost never)?
Anyway upon further study I see that katos can mean whale or big fish, or sea monster in greek.
Sure am glad we cleared that up....