1. Standard memberNyxie
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    13 May '05 07:57
    Originally posted by xxxenophobe
    http://www.olivebranch.com/biblestories/jonah.htm

    http://www.virtualchurch.org/jonah.htm
    Perhaps you should look up the book of mathew, and the original greek translations.

    To settle this:

    Old testament : great fish

    New Testament : whale

    In the bible all sealiving creatures are assigned the role of "fish". A whale could be a great fish, or it could just be a great big fish. Jesus in Mathew says whale.

    Decide on your own, believe what you want, but just don't believe it because you read it here.

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    13 May '05 08:02
    http://www.thercg.org/questions/p134.a.html

    i think im just arguin fer the sake of it now.. sorry...
    but id go with the older book if i wer Christian.
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    13 May '05 08:08
    Originally posted by xxxenophobe
    http://www.thercg.org/questions/p134.a.html

    i think im just arguin fer the sake of it now.. sorry...
    but id go with the older book if i wer Christian.
    Well if you just wanna argue 🙂

    I'd think Christian should mean trying to be like or being unto Christ, I'll take his word for it.

    Seems we've reached an impasse of biblical proportions.

    Nyxie
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    13 May '05 08:13
    Originally posted by Nyxie
    Well if you just wanna argue 🙂

    I'd think Christian should mean trying to be like or being unto Christ, I'll take his word for it.

    Seems we've reached an impasse of biblical proportions.

    Nyxie
    lol.. right... but i wont be like that hyppe... that beard is sooo pase'
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    13 May '05 08:32
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Jonah 1: 17 uses a "great fish" in all the versions I can find. Interestingly, though, when Jesus says the Son of Man will be in the Earth for three days just as Jonah was in -------, the American Standard Version and the King James Version use "whale" in Matthew 12:40. I wonder if the ancient Hebrews even knew what a whale was.
    For a bunch of versions of the Bible go to: http://www.biblegateway.com/
    ty saved me the look up ..
    Jonah himself wrote "fish" aint my fault if he was mistaken.
    He was supposed to be a prophet he ought to have forseen we'd find out a whale isn't a fish.
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    13 May '05 08:49
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    ty saved me the look up ..
    Jonah himself wrote "fish" aint my fault if he was mistaken.
    He was supposed to be a prophet he ought to have forseen we'd find out a whale isn't a fish.
    It's not Jonah's fault that nobody had explained the evolutionary tree of animals to him.
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    13 May '05 08:53
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    It's not Jonah's fault that nobody had explained the evolutionary tree of animals to him.
    All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men,another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. I Corinthians 15:39

    There is the sea, great and wide, in which are innumerable living things, both small and large animals Psalm 104:25

    They called them all fish. Unless it was a creepy crawly, like the serpent.
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    13 May '05 08:59
    Originally posted by Nyxie
    All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men,another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. I Corinthians 15:39

    There is the sea, great and wide, in which are innumerable living things, both small and large animals Psalm 104:25

    They called them all fish. Unless it was a creepy crawly, like the serpent.
    The King James Version mentions "whale" twice in the Old Testament but not in Jonah.

    Job 7:12
    Ezekiel 32:2
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    13 May '05 09:041 edit
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    The King James Version mentions "whale" twice in the Old Testament but not in Jonah.

    Job 7:12
    Ezekiel 32:2
    Yes but look up the original hebrew. You should find the term "great fish".

    edit: hebrew term "dag gadol" = great fish.

    In Mathew as stated by Jesus it is ketos greek for whale, as said in reference to Jonah, not the greek word for fish.
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    13 May '05 09:11
    Originally posted by Nyxie
    Yes but look up the original hebrew. You should find the term "great fish".

    In Mathew as stated by Jesus it is ketos greek for whale, as said in reference to Jonah, not the greek word for fish.
    Sorry, I don't have original Hebrew versions of the Old Testament lying around the mansion nor an ancient Hebrew to translate them for me if I had the manuscripts.

    It's unclear to me whether the Greek word ketos referred solely to whales or to any large sea creature. Where's Nemesio when you need him (which is almost never)?

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    13 May '05 09:28
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Sorry, I don't have original Hebrew versions of the Old Testament lying around the mansion nor an ancient Hebrew to translate them for me if I had the manuscripts.

    It's unclear to me whether the Greek word ketos referred solely to whales or to any large sea creature. Where's Nemesio when you need him (which is almost never)?

    Cetology is'nt a big enough hint for you? (that's the study of whales)

    Anyway upon further study I see that katos can mean whale or big fish, or sea monster in greek.

    Sure am glad we cleared that up....
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    13 May '05 09:30
    Originally posted by Nyxie
    Cetology is'nt a big enough hint for you? (that's the study of whales)

    Anyway upon further study I see that katos can mean whale or big fish, or sea monster in greek.

    Sure am glad we cleared that up....
    what did we clear up again?
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    13 May '05 09:31
    Originally posted by xxxenophobe
    what did we clear up again?
    We established that the original thread question was a valid one.
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    13 May '05 09:59
    Originally posted by xxxenophobe
    what did we clear up again?
    I can't tell if it's a whale of a tale , or a big fish story.
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    13 May '05 11:42
    I reckon it's a red herring.
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