1. Donationbuckky
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    28 Feb '09 16:05
    If Jesus had to die for our sins then Judas was an instrument of the divine will . Somebody had to do it ? God wanted Jesus to die on the cross right ? Blood had to be shed to appease an angry God right ? Without the blood being shed we would all of ended up in Hell right ?
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    28 Feb '09 19:05
    Originally posted by buckky
    If Jesus had to die for our sins then Judas was an instrument of the divine will . Somebody had to do it ? God wanted Jesus to die on the cross right ? Blood had to be shed to appease an angry God right ? Without the blood being shed we would all of ended up in Hell right ?
    If Jesus had to die for our sins then Judas was an instrument of the divine will
    One thing doesn't necessarily follow the other.

    Somebody had to do it?
    Are you saying Judas had no choice?

    Blood had to be shed to appease an angry God right ?
    A Holy God, not an angry God

    Without the blood being shed we would all of ended up in Hell right ?
    Incorrect. Despite the shedding of Jesus' blood, many people will still reject God.
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    28 Feb '09 20:38
    Originally posted by divegeester
    [b]If Jesus had to die for our sins then Judas was an instrument of the divine will
    One thing doesn't necessarily follow the other.

    Somebody had to do it?
    Are you saying Judas had no choice?

    Blood had to be shed to appease an angry God right ?
    A Holy God, not an angry God

    Without the blood being shed we would all of ended ...[text shortened]... ht ?
    Incorrect. Despite the shedding of Jesus' blood, many people will still reject God.[/b]
    What I'm saying that Judas helped out in what had to be done.
    God was angry over the nasty Adam, and Eve problem back in the Garden setting the stage for the Hell eternity plan.
    Many don't reject God, they reject the Christian concept of God. I guess in your mind that's enough to warrant Hell though.
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    28 Feb '09 21:30
    Originally posted by buckky
    If Jesus had to die for our sins then Judas was an instrument of the divine will . Somebody had to do it ? God wanted Jesus to die on the cross right ? Blood had to be shed to appease an angry God right ? Without the blood being shed we would all of ended up in Hell right ?
    Judas was a hero, alright. Without him, then the romans would have problems to find Jesus.
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    02 Mar '09 00:04
    Originally posted by buckky
    I guess in your mind that's enough to warrant Hell though.
    I guess you will keep guessing friend.
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    02 Mar '09 00:13
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I guess you will keep guessing friend.
    I guess your right.
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    Originally posted by buckky
    I guess your right.
    It's good to talk 😵
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    Gospel of Judas, I say. That's really all the proof needed to realise that
    Judas was in fact not so bad. Besides, all this crap about Judas betraying
    Jesus: Has it ever occurred to anyone that if Jesus knew he would be
    captured and crucified, yet did nothing about it, he really wasn't betrayed,
    but waiting for the inevitable to happen? How is Judas not a hero if he only
    does what he's supposed to do in the greater scheme of things, thereby
    helping fulfil the premonitions of Jesus leading to a two thousand year
    long-lived religion, conquering the world and...

    Oh! Wait! I take that back. Judas was no hero. He was a bloody scourge! 😠
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    02 Mar '09 13:361 edit
    Originally posted by Jigtie
    Gospel of Judas, I say. That's really all the proof needed to realise that
    Judas was in fact not so bad. Besides, all this crap about Judas betraying
    Jesus: Has it ever occurred to anyone that if Jesus knew he would be
    captured and crucified, yet did nothing about it, he really wasn't betrayed,
    but waiting for the inevitable to happen? How is Judas no he world and...

    Oh! Wait! I take that back. Judas was no hero. He was a bloody scourge! 😠
    a n a f a t h f
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    02 Mar '09 17:22
    Originally posted by jaywill
    a n a f a t h f
    Is this a type of code ?
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    maybe we should look for him to ask. as thier is no mention of his death in bible just a couple of suicide attempts hanging and cutting his stomach open. Even in John there is mention of the deciples what is to be done with this man Jesus says if he remains till i come what is it to you.
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    05 Mar '09 13:151 edit
    Originally posted by buckky
    Is this a type of code ?
    h y u a b a t h

    It's the Bible code stupid.
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    22 Jun '09 22:18
    God didn't Judas to make His Divine Plan work, one of the main reasons is he's not a hero is he killed himself.
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    23 Jun '09 19:40
    Originally posted by daniel58
    God didn't Judas to make His Divine Plan work, one of the main reasons is he's not a hero is he killed himself.
    Daniel58, maybe a little off the subject.

    But what do you think of this OUTLINE of the book of Ephesisans ?

    http://online.recoveryversion.org/Outlines.asp?bookid=49
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    23 Jun '09 20:02
    Well have you ever heard of the Mystical Body of Christ?
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