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Originally posted by loudogAccording to the story, Jesus is alive, so I doubt you could call His crucifixion a suicide, since He did not try to kill himself and even brought Himself back from the grave. It is generally considered a sacrifice like the Passover sacrifice of the Lamb to save the first born sons of the Israelites from the death angel before coming out of slavery in Eqypt.
For man of course.
However, the Jews and the Romans of that time considered it to be an execution penalty for some political or religious criminal offense.
Originally posted by RJHindsIf it can't be considered a suicide on account of him being "alive" then surely it being considered a sacrifice can be ruled out for the same reason?
According to the story, Jesus is alive, so I doubt you could call His crucifixion a suicide, since He did not try to kill himself and even brought Himself back from the grave. It is generally considered a sacrifice ....
Originally posted by FMFNot attempting to kill Himself is the main reason it would not be considered a suicide, even if He were dead, However, being alvie is just an added factor that helps.
If it can't be considered a suicide on account of him being "alive" then surely it being considered a sacrifice can be ruled out for the same reason?
There is such a thing as a living sacrifice according to the Holy Bible. So being alive would not rule out the possibility of a sacrifice. 😏
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Originally posted by RJHindsRomans 12:1 urges the believers to present themselves as "a living sacrifice."
There is such a thing as a living sacrifice according to the Holy Bible. So being alive would not rule out the possibility of a sacrifice. 😏
"I exhort you therefore, brothers, through the compassions of God to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, well pleasing to God, which is your reasonable service." (Romans 12:1)
Originally posted by avalanchethecatAllowing himself to be crucified and then escaping from His tomb certainly got a lot of attention in those days. Today, the negative image on His burial cloth and the blood stains on His face cloth are still getting a lot of attention.
Or self-harming, since he only did it to get attention.
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Originally posted by SuzianneOh sorry, I thought you were offended by the implication that self-harming was motivated by attention-seeking. I admit I felt a little bad about that.
How does supporting the death penalty compare to denigrating the only man ever to have no sin?
As for 'denigrating the only man ever to have no sin', that bothers me not a jot. And I would say that not only do I think that supporting the death penalty is much much MUCH worse, but also I'm pretty sure Jesus would agree with me.
Originally posted by avalanchethecatYou need to read the New Testament and try to understand what you are reading if you really think Jesus would agree with you. 😏
Oh sorry, I thought you were offended by the implication that self-harming was motivated by attention-seeking. I admit I felt a little bad about that.
As for 'denigrating the only man ever to have no sin', that bothers me not a jot. And I would say that not only do I think that supporting the death penalty is much much MUCH worse, but also I'm pretty sure Jesus would agree with me.
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Originally posted by RJHindsSeriously? Didn't Jesus directly intervene to prevent a woman being stoned to death?!?
You need to read the New Testament and try to understand what you are reading if you really think Jesus would agree with you. 😏
"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."
Isn't that telling us something pretty direct about Jesus and the death penalty, and wouldn't a modern interpretation be "let him who is without sin administer the lethal injection."
If Jesus was the only perfect man and we are all sinners, then who are we to sentence each other to death?
Get a grip.