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Originally posted by Grampy Bobbythis analogy doesnt seem to relate to the op. are you suggesting that explaing how jesus did it would put humans at the level of a two year old? how did you reach this conclusion. it seems to imply that there is something 'teachable' but its very difficult to understand, this also implies that gods powers can be learnt (if you are intelligent enough). this also implies that either its scientific and there fore god is bound to the laws of science, or its magic and we can all learn magic.
If you, personally, created the game of chess (ex nihilo), would you be able to teach
a normal two year old how to play well enough to be Rated #1 on Red Hot Pawn?
~o
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Originally posted by stellspalfie"How did Jesus, assuming nobody wrote the Harry Potter book of the day, called "The Bible", ferment water into wine in an hour or two, a scientific process which normally takes at least 3 weeks to 1 month."-M.
this analogy doesnt seem to relate to the op. are you suggesting that explaing how jesus did it would put humans at the level of a two year old? how did you reach this conclusion. it seems to imply that there is something 'teachable' but its very difficult to understand, this also implies that gods powers can be learnt (if you are intelligent enough). t ...[text shortened]... tific and there fore god is bound to the laws of science, or its magic and we can all learn magic.
"Piece of cake." (gb)
"Explain." -M.
"If you, personally, created the game of chess (ex nihilo), would you be able to teach
a normal two year old how to play well enough to be Rated #1 on Red Hot Pawn?"
(gb)
"How many years do I have to teach them?" (googlefudge)
"(1003)" (gb)
"If they have the ability then 1003 years aught to be sufficient." (googlefudge)
"What if (1003) is the Miracle Worker's RHP Chess Rating?" (gb)
"Who is the miracle worker?" (googlefudge)
"If you, personally, created the game of chess (ex nihilo), would you be able to teach
a normal two year old how to play well enough to be Rated #1 on Red Hot Pawn?"
~o (gb)
"How many years do I have to teach them?" (googlefudge)
"this analogy doesnt seem to relate to the op. are you suggesting that explaing how jesus did it would put humans at the level of a two year old? how did you reach this conclusion. it seems to imply that there is something 'teachable' but its very difficult to understand, this also implies that gods powers can be learnt (if you are intelligent enough). this also implies that either its scientific and there fore god is bound to the laws of science, or its magic and we can all learn magic." (stellspalfie)
Op: "How... ?" -M.
gb: 'Chess Metaphor appropriating googlefudge's rating to illustrate the contrast
between human impossibility and Christ's Omniscience and Omnipotence.'
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Water into wine doesn't require magic or a miracle. Think about mass hypnosis. Tell them it's wine and people can get intoxicated on water. We've all performed that test, or seen it done. I'm sure there wasn't any spoilsport around with a breathalyser to try to convince the people who thought it was really wine ....
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Originally posted by Kewpieand if that wine wasn't the finest ever produced,
Water into wine doesn't require magic or a miracle. Think about mass hypnosis. Tell them it's wine and people can get intoxicated on water. We've all performed that test, or seen it done. I'm sure there wasn't any spoilsport around with a breathalyser to try to convince the people who thought it was really wine ....
why was did the head waiter ask
why the best wine was saved to be serve last
when their palates were already satiated with the cheap wine,
instead of first as was the custom of the day...
http://bibleencyclopedia.com/goodsalt/John_2_wedding_in_Cana_2.htm
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Oh, good grief! Your book of fairytales wasn't written in English. It wasn't written down at the time it was supposed to have happened, but 200 years later. Try a game of Chinese Whispers and see if all the details are still correct after they've been passed along even half a dozen times. Have a bit of sense ...
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobbyjuxtaposing googlefudges chess rating with your analogy and turning water into wine in no way makes your analogy any better. you are just regurgitating the same non-point. there are several reasons it doesnt work. the main one being you have no idea how water was turned into wine so are in no position to compare it to the difficulty of any other task.
"How did Jesus, assuming nobody wrote the Harry Potter book of the day, called "The Bible", ferment water into wine in an hour or two, a scientific process which normally takes at least 3 weeks to 1 month."-M.
"Piece of cake." (gb)
"Explain." -M.
"If you, personally, created the game of chess (ex nihilo), would you be able to teach
a normal ...[text shortened]... n impossibility and Christ's Omniscience and Omnipotence.'
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Originally posted by KewpieWondering in whom or what you place your confidence and trust: >^v (?).
Oh, good grief! Your book of fairytales wasn't written in English. It wasn't written down at the time it was supposed to have happened, but 200 years later. Try a game of Chinese Whispers and see if all the details are still correct after they've been passed along even half a dozen times. Have a bit of sense ...