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    07 Mar '07 22:46
    right..?
  2. Subscribersonhouse
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    07 Mar '07 22:50
    Originally posted by eatmybishop
    right..?
    Is that before or after SVW?
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    07 Mar '07 22:51
    Originally posted by eatmybishop
    right..?
    No.
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    Originally posted by eatmybishop
    right..?
    I'm beginning to like you guys. Now that I'm over the initial shock I experience when I first discovered this forum.
  5. Standard memberknightmeister
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    10 Mar '07 17:18
    Originally posted by eatmybishop
    right..?
    Absolutely , I mean when you think about it most of us spend a lot of time talking to people who vehemently disagree with us. It's a bit strange really.
  6. Hmmm . . .
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    Originally posted by knightmeister
    Absolutely , I mean when you think about it most of us spend a lot of time talking to people who vehemently disagree with us. It's a bit strange really.
    Not so strange, when you think about it—it’s an excellent way to test our thinking against other minds.

    And agreement does not seem to be requisite for either respect or friendship. Of course, friendship, too, might be tested in the heat of the intellectual battle—but that is a risk that friends sometimes are willing to take for one another...

    In answer to the opening question: No, we are not all friends. But, as you indicate, there are some strange friendships on here, some that would not be readily apparent from the posts...
  7. Standard memberKellyJay
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    10 Mar '07 17:59
    Originally posted by vistesd
    Not so strange, when you think about it—it’s an excellent way to test our thinking against other minds.

    And agreement does not seem to be requisite for either respect or friendship. Of course, friendship, too, might be tested in the heat of the intellectual battle—but that is a risk that friends sometimes are willing to take for one another...

    In answ ...[text shortened]... are some strange friendships on here, some that would not be readily apparent from the posts...
    I agree with that, some don't look for friendships here, just targets.
    Kelly
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    10 Mar '07 18:05
    Whilst I bear no ill-will to anyone here, there are certain pre-requisites to being friends with someone, which only certain people exhibit.

    Vistesd, I am intrigued by your use of Eudaimonia in previous posts. Have you read much Aristotle? In particular his Nicomachean Ethics in which he deals, among other things, the role of friendship in pursuit of Eudaimonia. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on his views on friendship.
  9. Hmmm . . .
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    10 Mar '07 18:08
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I agree with that, some don't look for friendships here, just targets.
    Kelly
    The only time I’ve ever felt like a target in your sights, Kelly, was when we played chess...😉

    You and I have had some discussions that got a bit heated (probably mostly on my end), but we’ve also learned when to let an impasse be an impasse before things get destructive (at least I hope so).
  10. Hmmm . . .
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    10 Mar '07 18:15
    Originally posted by Starrman
    Whilst I bear no ill-will to anyone here, there are certain pre-requisites to being friends with someone, which only certain people exhibit.

    Vistesd, I am intrigued by your use of Eudaimonia in previous posts. Have you read much Aristotle? In particular his Nicomachean Ethics in which he deals, among other things, the role of friendship in pursuit of Eudaimonia. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on his views on friendship.
    Unfortunately, I have not read much Aristotle—a little by way of commentary. I got eudaimonia second-hand from bbarr, and found it to be a term that resonates with me.

    In terms of friendship, just to think briefly out loud, I would think that it involves—at its best and deepest—a mutual desire for one another’s eudaimonia; in that sense, it is not necessarily self-sacrificial (in the conventional sense, anyway), nor completely altruistic. I enjoy seeing my wife joyfully flourish in her life. We each seek that for the other, without denigrating our own. There is an aspect of non-clinging to that, as well.
  11. Standard memberKellyJay
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    10 Mar '07 18:40
    Originally posted by vistesd
    The only time I’ve ever felt like a target in your sights, Kelly, was when we played chess...😉

    You and I have had some discussions that got a bit heated (probably mostly on my end), but we’ve also learned when to let an impasse be an impasse before things get destructive (at least I hope so).
    There are only a couple of people here I would avoid in real life, and
    basically they never let up on the insults so what would be the point,
    and when I get into discussions with them, the weightier part of their
    post are only insults. I enjoy a heated discussion as long as it doesn't
    get personal, for me I believe people who defend their beliefs even if
    I disagree with them are much more interesting here than those I
    agree with, but do not defend them. As far as friendships are concern,
    vistesd you are the type of person I'd love to have as a neighbor and
    a friend. Some here I'd like to be friends with in real life, but basically
    only if they lived on the other side of town. 🙂
    Kelly
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    10 Mar '07 18:45
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    There are only a couple of people here I would avoid in real life, and
    basically they never let up on the insults so what would be the point,
    and when I get into discussions with them, the weightier part of their
    post are only insults. I enjoy a heated discussion as long as it doesn't
    get personal, for me I believe people who defend their beliefs even i ...[text shortened]... nds with in real life, but basically
    only if they lived on the other side of town. 🙂
    Kelly
    Have you ever had a neighbor with goats?
  13. Hmmm . . .
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    10 Mar '07 19:04
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    There are only a couple of people here I would avoid in real life, and
    basically they never let up on the insults so what would be the point,
    and when I get into discussions with them, the weightier part of their
    post are only insults. I enjoy a heated discussion as long as it doesn't
    get personal, for me I believe people who defend their beliefs even i ...[text shortened]... nds with in real life, but basically
    only if they lived on the other side of town. 🙂
    Kelly
    Thank you, Kelly; I truly appreciate that, and the feeling is mutual.

    PS: Ignore Kirk’s comment about the goats—we wouldn’t let them eat your yard...
  14. Standard memberKellyJay
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    10 Mar '07 20:02
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    Have you ever had a neighbor with goats?
    🙂 Neighbor no, family member yes.
    Kelly
  15. Standard memberKellyJay
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    10 Mar '07 20:032 edits
    Originally posted by vistesd
    Thank you, Kelly; I truly appreciate that, and the feeling is mutual.

    PS: Ignore Kirk’s comment about the goats—we wouldn’t let them eat your yard...
    I could use some goats in my back yard, to wet, green, and the grass
    is high. 🙂
    Kelly
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