@dj2becker saidSo your "What do you have to lose?" question regards any interpretation of what 'putting one's trust in Jesus' means, including those that differ from yours?
No the OP is not about my interpretation of scripture and doctrine.
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@dj2becker saidIt's lose, not loose. As in, "What do you have to lose?"
For me it’s a no brainer. What are the risks if any of putting your trust in God? People will always let you down, yet we still trust them. We even trust people that we have never seen or met sometimes. What do you have to loose by putting your faith in Jesus rather than in yourself and other people? This question is aimed specifically at non believers.
You seem to think belief in something can be switched on and off like a light. Frankly, I couldn't believe in Jesus if I wanted to, since I find the purported evidence in favor of Christian dogma wholly unconvincing.
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@soothfast saidCan you choose not to believe in something?
It's lose, not loose. As in, "What do you have to lose?"
You seem to think belief in something can be switched on and off like a light. Frankly, I couldn't believe in Jesus if I wanted to, since I find the purported evidence in favor of Christian dogma wholly unconvincing.
@dj2becker saidIt's chose, not choose. As in, "What do you have to chose?"
Can you choose not to believe in something?
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@thinkofone saidChose is past tense of choose. As in I chose to ignore your inaccurate advice.
It's chose, not choose. As in, "What do you have to chose?"
@dj2becker saidHave a think on it.
Chose is past tense of choose. As in I chose to ignore your inaccurate advice.
@dj2becker saidTry reading the post to which you responded.
choose (present tense)
chose (past tense)
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@thinkofone saidI know you’re just trolling me on ‘loose’ which I know was a mistake.
Try reading the post to which you responded.
@dj2becker saidAny church that preaches [contrary to the teachings of Christ and the Apostles], that, because of Gods grace, they still get eternal life in the Kingdom of God, regardless of how much or how often they continue with sin, is in fact encouraging people to sin.
I don’t know of any church that encourages people to sin because they are saved by grace. Can you name one church that does?
You, sonship, secondson and many others do it here all the time.
Paul warned born again Christian Saints not to fall into this trap of believing that they are assured of eternal life even though they sin. Eternal life is conditional on good works and righteousness
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (Galatians 5:19-21 KJV)
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@wolfgang59 saidI wouldn't have thought that possible. But of course you're right.
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You are way overestimating his intellect.
Seemed like a simple enough wordplay on what Soothfast posted. Simple enough for even a child to understand. Yet even with repeated hints...
@rajk999 saidAny church that preaches [contrary to the teachings of Christ and the Apostles], that, because of Gods grace, they still get eternal life in the Kingdom of God, regardless of how much or how often they continue with sin, is in fact encouraging people to sin.
Any church that preaches [contrary to the teachings of Christ and the Apostles], that, because of Gods grace, they still get eternal life in the Kingdom of God, regardless of how much or how often they continue with sin, is in fact encouraging people to sin.
You, sonship, secondson and many others do it here all the time.
Paul warned born again Christian Saints not to f ...[text shortened]... st, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (Galatians 5:19-21 KJV)[/i]
Evidently this concept is well beyond many who post on this forum.
@thinkofone saidYep, and the next question they will ask is 'But why did Christ have to die then'? ... lol. Paul explained that also in great detail. The end result of discussing this with them is that they want to believe that Christ died so that they [who believe] can continue with sin.
Any church that preaches [contrary to the teachings of Christ and the Apostles], that, because of Gods grace, they still get eternal life in the Kingdom of God, regardless of how much or how often they continue with sin, is in fact encouraging people to sin.
Evidently this concept is well beyond many who post on this forum.
I think James was having a good laugh at such Christians who profess faith and think that is all that is required. James said
- the devils also believe in one God
- the devils know about Christ death and resurrection
- the devils know Christ name
- faith without works is dead
- faith alone saves nobody.
Understandably Christians dont like James and Christ.