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Originally posted by KellyJayDid you consider other religions before you chose your current one?
There isn't one besides Jesus Christ that I'd ever look at.
Originally posted by vistesdHi vistesd,
Hello, old friends:
After all these years, I get to explore Judaism within a synagogue community.
Some of you might remember years ago, when I was pretty steeped in the Jewish strain of nondualism—doing some midrash (a Jewish form of exegesis), etc. At that time, I had no practical access to a community. Unfortunately with our move from the co ...[text shortened]... ly, aesthetically, spiritually (however one defines that). That includes "no religion" as well.
Originally posted by CalJustHi, CalJust. Thanks.
Hi vistesd,
What a refreshing post!
My own alternative viewpoint (if I were to change) would be Judaism, because of its rich culture. As a child, I often envied my Jewish friends for their rituals and their strong sense of community, far more than the Christan circles in which we moved. They have a heritage to be proud of, and a belief that actually makes sense.
To be the Chosen Race! Wow!
Originally posted by vistesdOf course, I used the words "Chosen race" colloquially. Like Fiddler on the Roof said to g-d: Why not choose someone else for a change?!
“Chosen [b]Race”? I question whether any ancient people thought in terms of any modern notions of race—as opposed to, say, tribe, or, at most, those who speak a common language.
Although there is a reference in Genesis 17 as well. There is no indication that the Israelites are chosen for any superiority—including moral superiority.[/b]
Originally posted by CalJustSorry--I was sure that's the way you were using it, and should have said so. But I have been involved in in some pretty fraught discussions on that question--and it is a charge that seems to be often leveled against Jews (others as well, I'm sure).
Of course, I used the words "Chosen race" colloquially. Like Fiddler on the Roof said to g-d: Why not choose someone else for a change?!
Your second point: again, true of course. Exactly the opposite is the case. When you read Ezekiel, and especially Hosea, you hear g-d saying that it was not for any special virtue that Israel was chosen, but in spite of ...[text shortened]... , several other cultures. But that would be one of the aspects that would attract me to Judaism.
Originally posted by CalJustMy Jewish friends say, not fully tongue in cheek, that they sometimes wish they weren't God's chosen, considering the ordeals He puts them through.
Hi vistesd,
What a refreshing post!
My own alternative viewpoint (if I were to change) would be Judaism, because of its rich culture. As a child, I often envied my Jewish friends for their rituals and their strong sense of community, far more than the Christan circles in which we moved. They have a heritage to be proud of, and a belief that actually makes sense.
To be the Chosen Race! Wow!
Originally posted by vistesd" It seems to be part of my psyche as well."
Sorry--I was sure that's the way you were using it, and should have said so. But I have been involved in in some pretty fraught discussions on that question--and it is a charge that seems to be often leveled against Jews (others as well, I'm sure).
Again, sorry for the implication that you meant anything more than, as you put it, a colloquial usage. My b ...[text shortened]... I will just take it as part of my personal (aesthetic) mythology, without further defense. 🙂
Originally posted by JS357I understand that thought, BUT, and it is something to think about. No
My Jewish friends say, not fully tongue in cheek, that they sometimes wish they weren't God's chosen, considering the ordeals He puts them through.
Originally posted by JS357Thank you. I like that answer as well, very much.
Years ago I told one of my Jewish friends I'd heard a definition of "Jew": It is a person for whom what it means to be a Jew is a lifelong question. He liked it.
Originally posted by KellyJayI'm pleased that you have found something that makes you feel complete.
Yes, but once I was saved I have not bothered to look for something I
already have.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeKJ, if you answer that, my related question would be if you had chosen Christianity if you were born in an overwhelmingly Bhuddist or Muslim country?
Hypothetically, if you had been born on some remote island and had no knowledge of any of the major religions (including Christianity) do you think you would still have found your way to the same God? (Genuine question).
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeI believe God reaches for us all, and He uses us to do that. So if all we are
I'm pleased that you have found something that makes you feel complete.
Hypothetically, if you had been born on some remote island and had no knowledge of any of the major religions (including Christianity) do you think you would still have found your way to the same God? (Genuine question).