@sonship saidUnfortunately, sadly even for you, repeating that you are joined to the Lord and you and the Lord are one spirit, thousands of times, does not in fact make it so. The bible is clear about that process and your parrot-like hypocritical mouth worship just makes you an angel of the devil, whose aim is to deceive people and hide the truth from them.
@divegeesterWhy do you keep claiming that your words in here are “God’s word”?
Have you any idea what a deluded, arrogant man you are?
I usually distinguish between words I am speaking and words from the Bible by changing the font to a bolder darker style. It is primarily those words I refer to as God's word.
Ie. [b]"He who is joined to ...[text shortened]... cant news, even irrelevant words to anyone who doesn't want the Lord in their life OR even to exist.
@Rajk999
"He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit" means exactly that.
The man or woman who has been joined to the Lord Jesus at WHATEVER stage of spiritual maturity "is one spirit".
In fact a firm solid foundation for life long obedience to the Lord is standing on the fact that one is "joined to the Lord".
He is not distant.
He is not "alienated from the life of God" (Eph 4:18) any longer.
He is wonderfully one spirit with the Lord Jesus.
What must he do now? Now that he knows he is joined to the Lord as one mingled and united spirit, what must he do ? He must be strengthened into the inner man. He must be energized to abide and linger, remain and function out from the realm - strengthened with power by God's Spirit INTO his inner man.
"That He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit into the inner man." (Eph. 3:16)
"He who is joined to the Lord [Jesus] is one spirit" (1 Cor. 6:17)
Now rejoicing at the realization, the revelation that I have received Christ Jesus the Lord as Spirit into my inner man to be joined to the Lord there, I must now get use to living a NEW WAY. I must be strengthened into the realm. God's glory and wonder must pull us or strengthen the believer to remain in that sphere. He must learn to live out from that inward sphere.
The result of being strengthened into the inner man is that the living Christ migrates out from the believer's inner man INTO his personality, that is to exert more and more presence in his soul.
Read the two passages now together:
"That He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit into the inner man.
THAT . . . Christ may make His home in your hearts through faith." (Eph. 3:16,17)
@sonship saidYour are pretending that you do not understand my point. OF course if you are joined to the Lord you are one spirit. Who says otherwise? Nobody.
@Rajk999
"He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit" means exactly that.
The man or woman who has been joined to the Lord Jesus at WHATEVER stage of spiritual maturity "is one spirit".
In fact a firm solid foundation for life long obedience to the Lord is standing on the fact that one is "joined to the Lord".
He is not distant.
He is no ...[text shortened]... of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit into the inner man." (Eph. 3:16)[/b]
The question is HOW CAN ONE BECOME JOINED TO THE LORD? You are not addressing that point. You are not addressing the teachings of Christ and the Apostles on that point. You are wrongly assuming that a profession of faith makes one joined to the4 Lord but that is a failed doctrine, it is dead faith. Dead faith is not joined to the Lord.
Only one with the Living Faith is joined to the Lord.
Kindly stop preaching your dead faith doctrine and preach the truth.
Now this is a fantastic truth which needs to be lived, enjoyed AND regurgitated to others.
First, a man receives Jesus as the Holy Spirit into his innermost being - his "inner man". Then he is JOINED to Jesus Christ. This is no small thing. HE IS JOINED TO THE RESURRECTED, VICTORUIOUS JESUS CHRIST.
"He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit".
Then he embarks on a new life. He must ask and seek God to STRENGTHEN him into that realm of his being joined to Christ in this inner man.
"That He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit into the inner man." .
I speak this from experience. The attracting Holy Spirit pulls the lover more and more to be in that realm of his inner man. With power the Spirit applies a gravity to strengthen the lover to stay more and more time IN that realm.
As a result Christ spreads from the inner man into the outer soul, personality, thought, decision making, emotion, memory, speech, behavior. He settles down in the soul and in the heart of the believer.
" . . . strengthened with power through His Spirit into the inner man, that Christ may make His home in your hearts through faith,
that you being rooted and grounded in love, may be full of strength to apprehend with all the saints what the breadth and length and height and depth are . . . "( Eph. 3:16b-18)
The saints together as a corporate entity learn the vast endless dimensions of Jesus Christ. He is extensive, expansive, large, broad, long, deep and high in infinite terms. We can never outgrow His vast dimensions.
So let's get practical. Say you are struggling with pornography.
He who commits sin is a slave to sin.
He who commits pornography is a slave to pornography.
The slave must first turn his life over to the Lord Jesus for cleansing, forgiveness, and have the stain on his character washed away in the redeeming blood of Christ.
Then should he struggle and strain to fight to resist? The curse of the law will only activate the filthy nature to rebel more and more. The curse of the law is wakened up and fights and wars against the soul.
But the victim instead turns his whole being to the Lord in his innermost being - for "He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit" And calls:
"O Lord Jesus! I cannot handle this temptation. Lord Jesus YOU are the victor. Lord Jesus YOU are the Overcomer. Lord Jesus flow through me right now."
Aha !! Grace empowers. Grace dispenses into his being. Victory comes spontaneously. Power from Heaven and peace from God flow into the soul. And he learns. He learns.
"Greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world." (1 John 4:4)
It is not winning through struggle and strain. It is by getting out of the way and allowing Jesus Christ THE VICTOR to dispense grace out from your innermost being.
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." (Phil. 4:13)
This is good news. A man can APPLY the victory of Jesus Christ by turning to the spirit where the Spirit of Jesus is once Jesus has been installed in his inner man.
This is the good news!
This is the good news!
This is the gospel of the kingdom.
Here is victory folks. It is not worrying about "Was I born this way?"
It doesn't matter if I was born this way or that way.
It matters what I obtain from being "born again".
This new birth is the formation of the inner man. And into that inner man the believer must be STRENGTHENED with power. Victory is not in law keeping. It is in releasing a higher more powerful law called "the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus". See Romans 8.
The law of sin and death can be overcome not by your keeping the law. But by your turning to unleash the law of divine life in Jesus Christ- "the law of the Spirit".
"There is now then no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, For the law of the Spirit of life has freed me in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and of death." (Rom. 8:1,2)
Rajk999 was a dismal failure to even try to answer the question -
"What is the Curse of the Law?"
Let's try this question on him.
Rajk999, what does it mean the Paul has "died to law"?
Galatians 2:19 - "For I through the law have died to law that I might live to God."
What does Paul mean that to live to God he has "died to law"?
What is it to "[die] to law" that one may "live to God" Rajk999 ?
"For I through the law have died to law that I might live to God." (Gal. 2:19)
And what did Paul mean that not only he died to law but that the other Christians have been made died to law as well?
"So then, my brothers, you also have been made dead to the law through the body of Christ so that you may be joined to another, To Him who has been raised from the dead." (Rom. 7:4)
@sonship saidThe law there refers to the Law of Moses. There is no requirement for Christians to keep the Law of Moses is the point Paul makes. However Christians are now under the law of Christ. Paul said the Law of Christ [his teachings and commandments] must be followed otherwise there is no inheritance in the Kingdom of God.
Rajk999 was a dismal failure to even try to answer the question -
"What is the Curse of the Law?"
Let's try this question on him.
Rajk999, what does it mean the Paul has "died to law"?
Galatians 2:19 - "For I through the law have died to law that I might live to God."
What does Paul mean that to live to God he has "died to law"?
So all your ranting and foolish talk is getting you nowhere. You are just a damn fool trying to mislead people who cannot read for themselves.
@Rajk999
So you say both passages only refer to the Law of Moses?
But people can take some passage of Christ's teaching and make that the eleventh, twelfth, and thirteenth commandments.
And that it what you are doing. Because you say even one not believing that God exists can keep the law of Christ.
You don't know what this law of Christ is.
You seem to assume it is the objective instructions of Jesus which can be kept by even one opposing Jesus and the existence of God.
Did Judas Iscariot keep the law of Christ when he wanted to sell the ointment that the woman poured out on Him, and give the proceeds to the poor?
“Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor? ” (KJV John 12:5)
Was Judas fulfilling the law of Christ as he was about to betray Jesus there?
@sonship saidWhat utter garbage. Go read your bible
@Rajk999
So you say both passages only refer to the Law of Moses?
But people can take some passage of Christ's teaching and make that the eleventh, twelfth, and thirteenth commandments.
And that it what you are doing. Because you say even one not believing that God exists can keep the law of Christ.
You don't know what this law of Christ is.
...[text shortened]... jective instructions of Jesus which can be kept by even one opposing Jesus and the existence of God.