Originally posted by RJHinds
I can't save anyone. Only Christ saves. HalleluYah !!!

Amen Brother, Amen.

Originally posted by RJHinds
You know I have scientific education. Why do you say such a thing?
It is true that I did not get a BS degree; and my study to become an
Electrical Engineer did not require me to take biology, but I did take
Physics and Chemistry.

And didn't understand either.

This is the science forum where there is no doubt as to evolutions validity.

Take your theism back to spirituality where it belongs.

YouTube&feature=fvwrel

Originally posted by googlefudge
And didn't understand either.

This is the science forum where there is no doubt as to evolutions validity.

Take your theism back to spirituality where it belongs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U0MnBmSlhE&feature=fvwrel

There should be doubt, though.

Originally posted by RJHinds
There should be doubt, though.

There should be scepticism, which only results in doubt if there is reason for it.

Originally posted by RJHinds
There should be doubt, though.

Regarldess of the literal message you are trying to send, your motives for wanting to help a fellow human bieng are a sign of good character...Just to let you know, I'm not opposed to a "god" of sorts, just to Jesus being the finality of it. Its certainly not science that I worship. For me, Its the facination of not knowing, contsantly observing and tweaking my abilities not to pass a judgement and being conscious of my conscious effort to do so that drives my curiosity and "moral" charcter.

Originally posted by googlefudge
And didn't understand either.

This is the science forum where there is no doubt as to evolutions validity.

Take your theism back to spirituality where it belongs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U0MnBmSlhE&feature=fvwrel

This video was very interesting, by the way.

I hadn't heard the concept of "bad brains" put quite that way before. I am well aware that people (especially large groups of them) are very easy to fool, but I had not heard the argument that science is a specific way to counteract our ability to so easily fool ourselves.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Reading books is no proof. I got books too. They say evolution is
hogwash.

Read the book. You want evidence, it's in the book.

Originally posted by forkedknight
There should be scepticism, which only results in doubt if there is reason for it.

There is plenty of reason. 😏

Originally posted by joe shmo
Regarldess of the literal message you are trying to send, your motives for wanting to help a fellow human bieng are a sign of good character...Just to let you know, I'm not opposed to a "god" of sorts, just to Jesus being the finality of it. Its certainly not science that I worship. For me, Its the facination of not knowing, contsantly observing and tweak ...[text shortened]... ng conscious of my conscious effort to do so that drives my curiosity and "moral" charcter.

But now that science knows that the universe must of had a beginning,
doesn't it make more sense to you that some intelligence must have
created it to work in such order and precision, than for some "big Bang"
to have produced it? Just think about how the earth, moon, and sun are
just at the right distances apart and moving at the right speeds, etc. to
make a home for life as we know it. It does not make sense to me that
this just happened by accident. Because of all the details listed within
the pages of the Holy Scriptures about life and the operation of our
universe that seem unlikely that ancient man to have understanding of,
I believe there is something to the Biblical account of a Creator God.
And the alternative that life came about by the accidental production of
small particles that formed themselves over time into machines that
came alive and produced all other living things seems as crazy as thinking
that a Mercedes Benz automobile assembled itself. And the idea that my
ancestors were apes of some type is not too appealing.

Originally posted by RJHinds
But now that science knows that the universe must of had a beginning,
doesn't it make more sense to you that some intelligence must have
created it to work in such order and precision, than for some "big Bang"
to have produced it? Just think about how the earth, moon, and sun are
just at the right distances apart and moving at the right speeds, etc. to ...[text shortened]... sembled itself. And the idea that my
ancestors were apes of some type is not too appealing.

What does the big bang have to do with evolution exactly?

Originally posted by RJHinds
But now that science knows that the universe must of had a beginning,
doesn't it make more sense to you that some intelligence must have
created it to work in such order and precision, than for some "big Bang"
to have produced it? Just think about how the earth, moon, and sun are
just at the right distances apart and moving at the right speeds, etc. to ...[text shortened]... sembled itself. And the idea that my
ancestors were apes of some type is not too appealing.

It's pure chance. There are millions and millions of planets, it's no wonder that some of them will be able to sustain life. It's like flipping coins, you might call 100 heads in a row a miracle, but everyone with half a brain can tell you that if you throw enough coins, that's bound to happen sometime.

Another problem with your theory is " to make a home for life as we know it". Life as we know it evolved to best suit the environment, so it's only natural that this planet is a good place for us to live.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
What does the big bang have to do with evolution exactly?

If you don't know the answer to that, you are more ignorant than I thought.
Surely, you must know. If not you need to start all over with your study
of Darwinism and evolution for you apparently got amnesia about those
parts of evolution that do not fit into your little world view. 😏

Originally posted by Barts
It's pure chance. There are millions and millions of planets, it's no wonder that some of them will be able to sustain life. It's like flipping coins, you might call 100 heads in a row a miracle, but everyone with half a brain can tell you that if you throw enough coins, that's bound to happen sometime.

Another problem with your theory is " to make a home it the environment, so it's only natural that this planet is a good place for us to live.

It's hard for me to believe that there are so many people, who think they are
very intelligent, that believe the same stupid things you just wrote. You need
to stand back away from them and start thinking for yourself and I am sure
you must have enough intelligence to realize how unreasonable it is for life
and everything else just happened by chance alone. Like I said before,
you would not believe a Mercedes Benz automobile just happened by chance
would you? Then why believe something even more complex like living
creatures would happen by chance. Thank man! That is why God created
you with a brain.

Originally posted by RJHinds
If you don't know the answer to that, you are more ignorant than I thought.
Surely, you must know. If not you need to start all over with your study
of Darwinism and evolution for you apparently got amnesia about those
parts of evolution that do not fit into your little world view. 😏

He does know the answer, I would bet, namely that evolution and the Big Bang have nothing to do with each other. The theory of evolution does not even say anything about how life came to exist on the planet, let alone how the universe began. Any elementary text on evolution will tell you this.

Originally posted by RJHinds
If you don't know the answer to that, you are more ignorant than I thought.
Surely, you must know. If not you need to start all over with your study
of Darwinism and evolution for you apparently got amnesia about those
parts of evolution that do not fit into your little world view. 😏

Again, what does evolution have to do with the big bang?