Originally posted by amannion
Bottom line is, that's stupid.
Unless there is a higher power that sets the bar on what is and isn't valued? Why not set the bar ourselves? As, in actual fact, we already do. And it's not about who holds all the power, at least not in a democratic country, since that power can be easily (or relatively easily) removed. It's actually about socially agreed up
Didn't take God to tell me that.
Just took a lot of people and lots of time.
Did you bother to read my post?
You are doing nothing but agreeing with my points. Unless there is
a higher power, man sets the bar and does what man will, as man
wills. The will of man will change from man to man, there isn't a
'bar' so to speak because everyone does what they will or can get
away with. Societies have different sets of rules there can be
different rules throughout each generation too.
You can look back through time and watch things change, fads
come and go, right and wrong changes. There isn't a 'set' right
and wrong for man without God, there isn't even a 'goal' to reach
either, since what each generation excepts can be rejected by the
next.
Kelly