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    Has that question been asked in this forum before?

    Is time real?

    Does time pass? Does it come and go?

    Does time have substance like air or water?

    If time isn't real, or doesn't pass, or come and go, then why do we measure it?

    Are we in stasis? Why then is there the past and the future if time doesn't exist?

    Was there a time when there was no time?

    Yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Do they exist?

    What does "forever and a day" mean?

    Is eternity a measure of time?

    Is there only the perpetual "now"?

    I don't think I can answer any of these questions, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
  2. Standard memberChessPraxis
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    29 May '11 04:40
    Originally posted by josephw
    Has that question been asked in this forum before?

    Is time real?

    Does time pass? Does it come and go?

    Does time have substance like air or water?

    If time isn't real, or doesn't pass, or come and go, then why do we measure it?

    Are we in stasis? Why then is there the past and the future if time doesn't exist?

    Was there a time when there was ...[text shortened]...
    I don't think I can answer any of these questions, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
    http://www.timephysics.com/
    IMO time may be just in the realm of mortals. After all it would be a moot point to measure increments of eternity, would it not. 😉
  3. Hmmm . . .
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    29 May '11 05:12
    Originally posted by josephw
    Has that question been asked in this forum before?

    Is time real?

    Does time pass? Does it come and go?

    Does time have substance like air or water?

    If time isn't real, or doesn't pass, or come and go, then why do we measure it?

    Are we in stasis? Why then is there the past and the future if time doesn't exist?

    Was there a time when there was ...[text shortened]...
    I don't think I can answer any of these questions, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
    Hey, Joe. I’ll follow this thread a bit, because I myself have more questions that positive thoughts—let alone answers! Good thread to start.
  4. Standard memberRJHinds
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    29 May '11 05:22
    Originally posted by josephw
    Has that question been asked in this forum before?

    Is time real?

    Does time pass? Does it come and go?

    Does time have substance like air or water?

    If time isn't real, or doesn't pass, or come and go, then why do we measure it?

    Are we in stasis? Why then is there the past and the future if time doesn't exist?

    Was there a time when there was ...[text shortened]...
    I don't think I can answer any of these questions, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
    I don't think this question has been asked directly.
    I think time is a measure of how long something continues to
    persist or last in comparison to the movement of the earth and
    the Sun, and in some cases other heavenly bodies.
    Light is required to see and compare these movements.
    We have divided time into seconds, minutes, hours, days, and
    years. We use the speed of the movement of light to measure
    the long distances to the stars. So time is a real measurement.

    We call the measure of time that has already occurred or just
    elapsed "past time". The measure of time that is now existing
    or in progress but not ended is called "present time". And "future
    time" is the expression we use for the measure of time that has
    not yet begun or is to come.

    Time is not a substance but a measurement.

    Before God created the universe there was no way to measure time,
    therefore, one could say there was no time before that.

    I think you should be able to see now that yesterday, today and
    tomorrow are measurements of 24 hours of past, present, and
    future time.

    I don't know what exactly the expression "forever and a day" means,
    but I suppose it means all time that is possible to measure plus an
    additional 24 hours that can't be measured, but assumed by todays
    standard.

    We think of eternity as time; but eternity is an infinite, endless, or
    immeasurable duration without end and is therefore, timeless.

    I'll leave the last question for you to answer. I believe you will
    know the answer. Ask the Holy Spirit to give you understanding.
  5. Standard memberblack beetle
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    29 May '11 11:30
    Originally posted by josephw
    Has that question been asked in this forum before?

    Is time real?

    Does time pass? Does it come and go?

    Does time have substance like air or water?

    If time isn't real, or doesn't pass, or come and go, then why do we measure it?

    Are we in stasis? Why then is there the past and the future if time doesn't exist?

    Was there a time when there was ...[text shortened]...
    I don't think I can answer any of these questions, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
    Edit: "Has that question been asked in this forum before?"
    Yes;


    Edit: "Is time real?"
    It is real but it does not exist on its own;


    Edit: "Does time pass? Does it come and go?"
    No. The time between our measurments pass conventionally;


    Edit: "Does time have substance like air or water?"
    No. Time is a mind-only concept;


    Edit: "If time isn't real, or doesn't pass, or come and go, then why do we measure it?"
    Our invention (the concept of Time) and our measurements enable us to monitor and to study the stages of the constant changes of all the phenomena-in-flux by means of studying the details of the conventional flux-in-phenomena. Therefore Time is neither real, nor not real, nor both, nor neither;


    Edit: "Are we in stasis? Why then is there the past and the future if time doesn't exist?"
    We are where we are HereNow. The "past", the "present" and the "future" are conventions we are using for the mapping of the relative reality we perceive (as absolute reality) by means of our 6 senses;


    Edit: "Was there a time when there was no time?"
    We invented Time, therefore Time was not existent before we invented it;


    Edit: "Yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Do they exist?"
    They neither exist, nor don't exist, nor both, nor neither;


    Edit: "What does "forever and a day" mean?"
    I don't know;


    Edit: "Is eternity a measure of time?"
    "Eternity" does not exist due to the fact that the observer universe is a phenomenon-in-flux instead of being flux-in-phenomena;


    Edit: "Is there only the perpetual "now"?"
    There is an everchanging HereNow;


    Edit: "I don't think I can answer any of these questions, but I'd like to hear your thoughts."
    I think anybody can answer any of these questions if s/he only knew what exacty s/he knows and what exactly s/he ignores;

    😵
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    29 May '11 11:50
    I think it's high time this thread was moved to the correct forum: science . 😉

    -m.
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    I'll need a bit of time before I can get back to this. I would like to reply to each poster, but only when I have a lengthier block of time to do it. Right now I have another project to tackle. I'll be back.
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    29 May '11 16:521 edit
    Time has been proven to be relative and it's affected by gravity. The clock closer to earth vs the clock running in space. On will run slower closer to the source of gravity.
    Of course time while very real is kinda of meaningless 🙂




    Manny
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    30 May '11 23:34
    Originally posted by josephw
    I'll need a bit of time before I can get back to this. I would like to reply to each poster, but only when I have a lengthier block of time to do it. Right now I have another project to tackle. I'll be back.
    Well, I'm back. Just in time I hope.

    This is boring. I think I'll start another thread about something else.
  10. Standard memberblack beetle
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    Originally posted by josephw
    Well, I'm back. Just in time I hope.

    This is boring. I think I'll start another thread about something else.
    How did you Americans came up with monstrosities like bourbon and SoCo-Cola that taste like expired aftershave when you can enjoy pure malt?
    😵
  11. Standard memberRJHinds
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    Originally posted by black beetle
    How did you Americans came up with monstrosities like bourbon and SoCo-Cola that taste like expired aftershave when you can enjoy pure malt?
    😵
    Many of us didn't like the pure malt except with Ice cream. Ha! Ha!
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    02 Jun '11 01:15
    Originally posted by josephw
    Has that question been asked in this forum before?

    Is time real?

    Does time pass? Does it come and go?

    Does time have substance like air or water?

    If time isn't real, or doesn't pass, or come and go, then why do we measure it?

    Are we in stasis? Why then is there the past and the future if time doesn't exist?

    Was there a time when there was ...[text shortened]...
    I don't think I can answer any of these questions, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
    Time is real in so far as it has a direction, e.g. people don't typically get younger, always older. Time is also a measurable property of nature, e.g. slower at lower altitudes, which seems to suggest that it is real.
  13. Standard memberblack beetle
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Many of us didn't like the pure malt except with Ice cream. Ha! Ha!
    😵
  14. Standard membershavixmir
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    There are two sorts of time.
    One as in time the dimension.

    For example: If you look at a 3D grid and you want to meet someone on that grid (say for example: Central station in Amsterdam) you need to add one more flavour to the equation. What time? If you don't, you'll still not meet up.
    So, as the coordinates are always there (always will be and always were), so that time is always there as well. Now, then and when.

    The second is our appreciation of time. We experience time going from A to B. From the day we're born to the day we die. It goes from point A to point B. However, as I've just explained, it doesn't really. It's always there (so, in time the dimension you are being born and dying and everything in between right now), but you don't experience it as such.
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    Originally posted by epiphinehas
    Time is real in so far as it has a direction, e.g. people don't typically get younger, always older. Time is also a measurable property of nature, e.g. slower at lower altitudes, which seems to suggest that it is real.
    Actually the 'flow' of time is an illusion. The only reason you believe people only get older not younger is your knowledge of the future is not nearly as good as your knowledge of the past, so you conclude that the past is fixed and the future is not and therefore that the past 'has happened' and the future has not. But when you look at the fine details from the point of view of physics, there is no such differentiation between a fixed direction and a flexible direction. In fact, quantum mechanics suggests that the past is also flexible ie one could say it hasn't happened yet.
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