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Originally posted by robbie carrobieOh the grass, I still remember your orgasmatronic theory😵
Lol, your forgetting my friend about the holy blade of grass, 🙂
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Not understanding some point or issue in the Bible is completely ok. None of us know all the answers. But the serious mistake is putting your reliance on what these men say with regards to this paganistic belief and their excuses and made up reasonings as to why YOU should accept what they say is truth instead of the Bible. The truth is in all the script is trinity...you've been decieved and have been drawn away from the clear truths in the Bible.
Originally posted by jaywillLol....Still avoiding the issues such as the holy spirit. Ok. I give up with you. It's sad that you have been so fooled by this Jay. I hope someday soon you'll wake up and read the Bible clearly and then be able to leave the deceptions behind.
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Not understanding some point or issue in the Bible is completely ok. None of us know all the answers. But the serious mistake is putting your reliance on what these men say with regards to this paganistic belief
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Concerning the Triune God, your pagan origin theor ...[text shortened]... y" doesn't make him wrong in his teaching of the Scriptural basis of the Trinity.[/b]
Originally posted by galveston75And I am evading nothing from you as a challenge. Stop posturing. I have written much about the Spirit in the past.
Lol....Still avoiding the issues such as the holy spirit. Ok. I give up with you. It's sad that you have been so fooled by this Jay. I hope someday soon you'll wake up and read the Bible clearly and then be able to leave the deceptions behind.
Originally posted by jaywill#1..I said a name, not a title.
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And where is the Holy Spirit in all of this?
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In the New Testament the Holy Spirit is the final stage of the Triune God reaching man. It is through the Holy Spirit as the Third of the Trinity that God is finally imparted INTO man to be man's inner eternal and divine life.
hrist is today the Holy Spirit. They are distinct but they are not separated.
Originally posted by galveston75#5..God's active force, the holy Spirit was being used to accomplish his will.
#1..I said a name, not a title.
#2..No one addresses the Holy Spirit as they do the other two. Must be a differance.
#3..I've read the Bible from cover to cover many, many times.
#4..I get the impression from you that you diffenently follow the doctrines of men over the Bible.
#5..God's active force, the holy Spirit was being used to accomplish his w ...[text shortened]... rit. You only pray to Jehovah as Jesus himself commanded. But you don't get that do you?
Originally posted by galveston75=====================================
#1..I said a name, not a title.
#2..No one addresses the Holy Spirit as they do the other two. Must be a differance.
#3..I've read the Bible from cover to cover many, many times.
#4..I get the impression from you that you diffenently follow the doctrines of men over the Bible.
#5..God's active force, the holy Spirit was being used to accomplish his w rit. You only pray to Jehovah as Jesus himself commanded. But you don't get that do you?
Originally posted by Conrau KI think that has absolutely no scriptural basis.
[b]#5..God's active force, the holy Spirit was being used to accomplish his will.
This is ironic. You effectively deny both the divinity and personhood of the Holy Spirit. I think that has absolutely no scriptural basis. We can the Holy Spirit's personhood in Jesus' own description:
Nevertheless I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I ...[text shortened]... was God[/i]. Nothing could be clearer. It is an explicit affirmation that Jesus is God.[/b]
Originally posted by Conrau KYou really, really have no idea what the holy spirit is do you?
[b]#5..God's active force, the holy Spirit was being used to accomplish his will.
This is ironic. You effectively deny both the divinity and personhood of the Holy Spirit. I think that has absolutely no scriptural basis. We can the Holy Spirit's personhood in Jesus' own description:
Nevertheless I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I ...[text shortened]... was God[/i]. Nothing could be clearer. It is an explicit affirmation that Jesus is God.[/b]
Originally posted by jaywillYou need the truth....
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#1..I said a name, not a title.
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Firstly, I will not accept that there is a very large difference between title and name. This is largely a non-issue, that you said name and not title.
Since "the Lord is the Spirit" whatever name is the Lord's i ...[text shortened]... is the Spirit of His Son (Gal.4:6)
You need experience.[/b]
Originally posted by vistesdits beautiful Vistesed, for clearly the ancient christians in Alexandria consciously made a distinction between God and the Word, as is clearly discernible form the Sahidic Coptic text, regardless of exegesis or grammatical interpretations. Many other biblical scholars have also recognised the difference, James Moffatt for example.
[b]I think that has absolutely no scriptural basis.
Umm… It would from a Jewish point of view. Well, divinity, maybe—but distinguishable hypostasis (“personhood” ): not.
Also, Conrau, Greek Orthodox Christian writers tend to be pretty open about the historical development of a Trinitarian understanding, up thorough Nicea and Chalcedon ...[text shortened]... ly (and have been since sometime before the time of Christ), that they are difficult to compare.[/b]
Originally posted by jaywillhttp://watchtower.org/e/bh/appendix_04.htm
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#1..I said a name, not a title.
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Firstly, I will not accept that there is a very large difference between title and name. This is largely a non-issue, that you said name and not title.
Since "the Lord is the Spirit" whatever name is the Lord's i ...[text shortened]... is the Spirit of His Son (Gal.4:6)
You need experience.[/b]
Originally posted by vistesd================================
[b]I think that has absolutely no scriptural basis.
Umm… It would from a Jewish point of view. Well, divinity, maybe—but distinguishable hypostasis (“personhood” ): not.
Also, Conrau, Greek Orthodox Christian writers tend to be pretty open about the historical development of a Trinitarian understanding, up thorough Nicea and Chalcedon ...[text shortened]... ly (and have been since sometime before the time of Christ), that they are difficult to compare.[/b]