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    14 May '18 12:51
    Originally posted by @sonship
    I am going out for a few hours.
    What should all the non-posting atheists who think Jesus didn't exist - the ones you assume are present here, reading your stuff - what should they do while you're gone?
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    14 May '18 13:151 edit
    Originally posted by @sonship
    You are not a wise person at all sonship.
    Take note of what is going on around you.
    Your obsession with this doctrine of Witness Lee is unhealthy.


    Do you think I'm intimidated by you mentioning Witness Lee ?

    Hey, mention Witness Lee all you want.

    In fact when you cannot rebut something, well, just blame it on Witness Lee. T ...[text shortened]... Jesus Christ can grow and take form in believers in Jesus.
    Blame that idea on Witness Lee.
    Not one single point about following the commandments of Christ.

    ***** Blessed are those who follow his commandments. These will have the right to the tree of life.

    Why call me Lord and dont do what i say.

    You are my friends if you do whatsoever i command you.

    If you love keep my commandments.

    The man who hears Christ and did not follow the commandments is like the fool who built his house on the sand. Great will be your fall
    ******

    You, Lee and others who follow your perverse doctrine of mouth worship are the goats who are cast out.
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    14 May '18 14:55
    Originally posted by @fmf
    What should all the non-posting atheists who think Jesus didn't exist - the ones you assume are present here, reading your stuff - what should they do while you're gone?
    That's one complex pretzel folded around itself innuendo you have there.

    How's your lotus position?
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    14 May '18 15:345 edits
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Not one single point about following the commandments of Christ.


    I disagree completely. Let's review quickly.


    1.) God and man united in the Person of Jesus Christ.


    Certainly required the obedience of Jesus to His Father.


    2.) God is three-one.


    This is true regardless of people's obedience to Christ.
    But most effective with their obedience to Christ.


    3.) Whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


    Commanded by God - Psalm 50:15. Referenced in hundreds of places.


    4.) The apostles established one church per city to keep the practical local oneness.


    Requires obedience to Christ. See First Corinthians.


    5.) The last Adam became a life giving Spirit.



    True regardless of man's obedience.
    Most effective WITH man's obedience to Christ.
    Obedience to all in Romans 8.


    The Lord is the Spirit.


    True regardless of man's obedience.
    Most effective WITH man's obedience to Christ.
    Obedience to all in the epistles - especially Romans 6, 8.
    Obedience strongly implied in John 14- 16 too.


    6.) Some Christians will be saved yet as through fire - losing the reward of the millennial kingdom.


    Full of the issue of obedience to Christ.


    7.) Using the mouth to touch God in the Spirit is important.


    Full of obedience of faith and to Christ.


    8.) The New Jerusalem is the final marriage of Christ and His people a union in life for eternity.


    Full of the issue of both Love and Obedience to Christ.


    9.) The church is the habitation of God in spirit.

    Full of the matter of receiving and abiding and obedience to the Spirit of Christ.


    10.) Vital groups of Christians gathering by twos and threes or more is important for spiritual growth.


    Includes obedience to Christ in Matthew 18.
    Includes obedience to Christ shepherding the churches in the Apostle Paul.


    11.) We should love Jesus.
    We should follow Jesus who can be received and live in us.


    All reactions to obedience to Christ. All involve "the obedience of faith" (Rom. 1:5)


    12.) Through receiving Christ we are no longer "alienated from the life of God" .


    Full of the matter of obedience to Christ as seen in Ephesians.


    13.) He who has the Son has the eternal life.

    True regardless of man's obedience.
    Most effective with man's obedience to Christ.


    14.) God's eternal purpose is to have sons by means of His imparting His life and nature into them (but not His Godhead).


    Full of the matter of "the obedience of faith".
    Full of all the response of human beings TO God in faith and following of Christ and God.


    15.) We can "eat" Jesus.


    Many instances of which demonstrate obedience to Christ.
    Ie. See John 6:57


    16.) God presents Himself to man in the symbol of FOOD to be taken in, assimilated, eaten.


    See John 6:57. See the whole chapters of John 5 and 6.
    The obedience of faith will EAT Jesus.
    The obedience of faith will DRINK of Jesus.
    The obedience of faith will take IN Jesus Christ as food for the spiritual life.


    17.) God became man so that man might become God in life and in nature, yet not in His Godhead.


    Rests on the obedience of faith. See John 1:11-13.
    Try to blame Witness Lee for that sentence above.


    18.) Jesus is Jehovah God.

    True whether man obeys Christ or not.
    Most effective when man obeys Christ.


    19.) We Christians are going to marry Jesus Christ.


    Will only consummate at the obedience of faith in Christ and to Christ in full. The destiny of the Christians. The destination of all who are saved by Jesus Christ.


    20.) Jesus Christ can grow and take form in believers in Jesus.


    Requires obedience to Christ shepherding the saints through His apostle Paul. Let Christ be FORMED in you. See Galatians.

    Not only do you get an F in blaming any of these on Witness Lee. You also get an F in demonstrating they don't involved obedience to Christ.

    Were you saying something about the garbage dump of so-called "Christian teachers" ? You're going there on scholarship!
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    14 May '18 16:001 edit
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Not one single point about following the commandments of Christ.

    !
    Its a simple matter.. You can complicate all you like.
    Jesus said follow his commandments.
    These who follow - the sheep will enter the Kingdom of God:

    I was hungry, and ye gave me to eat;
    I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink;
    I was a stranger, and ye took me in;
    naked, and ye clothed me;
    I was sick, and ye visited me;
    I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
    (Matthew 25:34-36 ASV)


    Mouth worshiping goats are cast out.

    :
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    14 May '18 16:38
    When Jesus raised someone from the dead he said that she only slept.

    Heaven and hell come after the great judgment it would seem.
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    14 May '18 17:37
    Originally posted by @whodey
    When Jesus raised someone from the dead he said that she only slept.

    Heaven and hell come after the great judgment it would seem.
    There is no judgment after death that determines one’s eternal destination. People decide that on their own right here on earth.
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