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Jesus said "you will know the truth and the truth will set you free" . He also said that it would be the Spirit that would "guide you in all truth".
In addition he said that he would be "in us and us in Him" and that we should "remain in him". He backs this up with a ritual (communion) that involves the taking in to our very bodies of his body (bread) and blood (wine).
Given that he taught that the Holy Spirit was a real phenomena and was to enable us to be "born of the Spirit" , what are we to make of all this?
He said that the "Son will set you free". What does this mean? Is it not logical to extrapolate that he meant that he was to live in us via the Holy Spirit and that this was the truth that would "set us free"?
We could say that he was only talking metaphorically and symbolically , but I don't buy that , do you? If he wasn't saying that he was to live in us via the Spirit , then what was he on about?
It's clear that he taught that the truth was to be revealed by the Spirit , much of it after his death----enter stage right ...St Paul , Acts and the rest.
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"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate to be with you always, the Spirit of truth, which the world cannot accept, because it neither sees nor knows it. But you know it, because it remains with you, and will be in you. (Jn 14:16-17)
Jesus says, “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.”
"Remain in me as I remain in you ..."
"When 2 or 3 are gathered together in my name , there will I be amongst them"
"I will not leave you as Orphans.....I will be with you until the end of the age"
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In addition he said that he would be "in us and us in Him" and that we should "remain in him". He backs this up with a ritual (communion) that involves the taking in to our very bodies of his body (bread) and blood (wine).
Given that he taught that the Holy Spirit was a real phenomena and was to enable us to be "born of the Spirit" , what are we to make of all this?
He said that the "Son will set you free". What does this mean? Is it not logical to extrapolate that he meant that he was to live in us via the Holy Spirit and that this was the truth that would "set us free"?
We could say that he was only talking metaphorically and symbolically , but I don't buy that , do you? If he wasn't saying that he was to live in us via the Spirit , then what was he on about?
It's clear that he taught that the truth was to be revealed by the Spirit , much of it after his death----enter stage right ...St Paul , Acts and the rest.
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"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate to be with you always, the Spirit of truth, which the world cannot accept, because it neither sees nor knows it. But you know it, because it remains with you, and will be in you. (Jn 14:16-17)
Jesus says, “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.”
"Remain in me as I remain in you ..."
"When 2 or 3 are gathered together in my name , there will I be amongst them"
"I will not leave you as Orphans.....I will be with you until the end of the age"
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