@sonship saidFor we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. (Ephesians 5:30-32 KJV)"For this cause a man ... shall be joined to his wife, and the two shall be one flesh.
This mystery is great, but I speak with regard to Christ and the church." (Eph. 5:31b,32)
The demons must have plucked out your spiritual eyes.
The church is the body of Christ. Members of a body can be joined and be one with each other and with Christ just like husband and wife, WITHOUT BEING THE BRIDE OF CHRIST.
The bible says that the bride of Christ is the Kingdom of God, or the New Jerusalem. Revelations says that the Spirit and the Bride, call out to the churches to come and join. Is the bride speaking to herself ? The Kingdom of God calls out to the churches.
Part of the church will be cast out of the Kingdom of God because they have defiled themselves. They will not inherit the Kingdom of God. They will be destroyed. This is clearly stated all over the NT. But your false teachings ignore it. Will part of the bride be condemned and damned? The bride not the church.
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For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. (Ephesians 5:30-32 KJV)
You can bolden any portion of it you wish. Members of his body being true does not cancel out the church being wife to Christ and Christ being husband to her.
Forget about cheating me by teaching "Because THIS is, THAT is NOT."
The entire mystery of Eve being taken out of Adam and brought back to Adam to be one flesh with Adam as her husband, his own body, and she as his wife is regards to "Christ and the church".
You are never going to understand the Bible's revelation well, because you come to it already with a closed mind about what YOU want to find there.
The church is the body of Christ. Members of a body can be joined and be one with each other and with Christ just like husband and wife, WITHOUT BEING THE BRIDE OF CHRIST.
Forget about asking me to shut MY eyes to the teaching of Paul there.
Forget about taking one part and using it to shut my eyes to the OTHER part.
That He might present the church to Himself ... . As a man is presented with his bride, glorious.
No Rajk999, I am not going to believe "Well, the church is His Body, SO the church cannot be His wife."
Forget about it. You go teach your lopsided half true heterodox understanding.
Can you walk and chew gum at the same time ?
Christ - "the Savior of the Body" (Eph. 5:23)
Christ - the Husband who gave Himself up for HER - His wife the church (v.25)
Can you chew gum and walk at the same time ??
@sonship saidChrist will not reject His Bride, the Kingdom of God or the New Jerusalem. But He will surely reject parts of the church. Part of the church or body of Christ is evil and will be cut off, burned, destroyed, and will not inherit the Kingdom of God or New Jerusalem
@Rajk999For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. (Ephesians 5:30-32 KJV)
You can bolden any portion of it you wish. Me ...[text shortened]... for HER[/b] - His wife the church (v.25)
Can you chew gum and walk at the same time ??
Jesus and His Bride calls the church into the Kingdom of God. Not all the church are welcome. Only the righteous part of the church will enter.
The notion that the church =- the bride is unbiblical and nonsensical.
@Rajk999
When one is ignorant and only partially understands the New Testament in a superficial way, it SEEMS easy for him to find problems to point out.
None of these latter objections are weightier then the earlier errors.
I may wait a bit to see who else would like to know how such objections are answered.
All I can do is show someone why these "problems" for Rajk999 are not problems for me.
@sonship saidYou are so knowledgeable about the New Testament that almost all your doctrines are unbiblical nonsense. Whats the point of your knowledge? You will got to into the lake of fire with it. Knowedlge if of no use What is of use is good works and rightrousness a doctrine which you also reject
@Rajk999
When one is ignorant and only partially understands the New Testament in a superficial way, it SEEMS easy for him to find problems to point out.
None of these latter objections are weightier then the earlier errors.
I may wait a bit to see who else would like to know how such objections are answered.
All I can do is show someone why these "problems" for Rajk999 are not problems for me.
The church [which you wrongly call the bride of Christ] is made up of several types of people. One of these groups is an evil sinful group. They will be rejected by Christ, and they will be destroyed.
You say Paul refers to these church members as the Bride.
Will Christ reject and destroy part of the bride?
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@Rajk999
Since this poster is likely to object perpetually on general principle with threats -
I may wait a bit to see who else would like to know how such objections are answered.
All I can do is show someone why these "problems" for Rajk999 are not problems for me.
I am ready for the challenge but choose not to want to waste time and effort, unless some less hostile poster reading along asks " Well, sonship what would you say about THAT?"
The "THAT" above refers to these three (final) paragraphs:
Christ will not reject His Bride, the Kingdom of God or the New Jerusalem. But He will surely reject parts of the church. Part of the church or body of Christ is evil and will be cut off, burned, destroyed, and will not inherit the Kingdom of God or New Jerusalem
Jesus and His Bride calls the church into the Kingdom of God. Not all the church are welcome. Only the righteous part of the church will enter.
The notion that the church =- the bride is unbiblical and nonsensical.