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    ... restrictions. Are these restrictions from Christ or Russell ? Are you followers of Christ or Russell?

    141 Things Jehovah's Witnesses Can't Do.

    Belong to another organization or club for the purpose of socializing and friendship with 'worldly' people (Christian or not) who are not Jehovah's Witnesses. (Belonging to a professional association is allowed to the extent that it is required for employment. e.g. a teacher, construction worker, or plumber might be required to join professional organizations or a labor union in order to be employed in their chosen field.)
    Run for leadership in any organization including their own. (Ministers and leaders within the Watchtower organization are appointed. They do not campaign or run for office. The Society of Jehovah's Witnesses is not a democracy. The Jehovah's Witnesses claim to be a 'theocracy', - i.e. run by God and Jesus through a visible representative. See Idolatry
    Jehovah's Witnesses cannot disagree that the Watchtower is God's only organization and 'the truth'. See Organized to do God's Will and Rebellion Against Jehovah
    Vote
    Salute the flag
    Discuss politics
    Hold political office
    Campaign for a political candidate
    Contribute to the Presidential Campaign Fund on their tax return
    Take a stand on any political or 'worldly' issue. Jehovah's Witnesses believe they must be no part of this world and completely neutral when it comes to pledging allegiance to their flag, defending their country, community involvement, etc.
    Picket their employer during a labor union strike. Or be a union steward or shop steward. Jehovah's Witnesses are always 'separate' and neutral on all 'worldly' issues
    Join the armed forces. Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to take up arms against their brothers and sisters in other countries.
    Own a gun
    Become a police officer or be employed in any occupation where they are required to carry a gun.
    Wear military uniforms or clothing associated with war
    Take yoga classes and practice the discipline of yoga. See Why Can't Jehovah's Witnesses Do Yoga?
    Smoke tobacco, drugs, ...
    Attend Alcoholics Anonymous
    Donate blood
    Accept blood transfusions. For most Jehovah's Witnesses this is such a serious matter that they will do everything in their power to prevent doctors from performing a transfusion. See Abstain From Blood
    Contribute to religious charitable organizations
    Buy anything from a church store or business that raises revenue for a church
    Shop at the Salvation Army or a church run thrift store
    Buy something at a church garage sale
    Work for another church
    Work for a charitable religious organization or church run store
    Work for the Salvation Army
    Volunteer to work for any charitable church run organization
    Donate stuff to a church run store
    Play competitive sports in school
    Run for class president
    Play competitive sports professionally
    Attend university and work towards a professional degree. This is a matter of conscience, but Jehovah's Witnesses who pursue 'worldly' knowledge are looked down upon because they've believed armageddon is fast approaching since the 1870's. For zealous Jehovah's Witnesses, distributing Watchtower literature and recruiting always comes first before personal goals. Watch this video about Witnesses who didn't get an education before 1975
    Join the Boy Scouts
    Join the Girl Guides
    Buy Girl Scout cookies (some consider this to be wrong since their children can't join these clubs)
    Join the YMCA. Why? Because they don't want to associate with Christians outside of their religion. YMCA stands for the Young Men's 'Christian' Association. One of the biggest 'sins' a Jehovah's Witness can commit is attending another church or financially supporting a church affiliated organization. They believe that according to the Bible, only Jehovah's Witnesses have any hope of being saved at armageddon. Everyone else belongs to this 'doomed system of things dominated by Satan the Devil'. See the Watchtower Sept 1, 1989
    Become a cheerleader
    Go to the school prom or school dance. Associating with 'worldly' friends after school in social setting is not allowed.
    Attend class reunions
    Attend a 'worldly' party, - even at their neighbor's house if they're not Jehovah's Witnesses. Associating with people outside the organization is strongly discouraged because it is thought that worldly associations will weaken their faith. The only exception would be door to door preaching and Bible studies
    Have close friends and activity 'buddies' who are not Jehovah's Witnesses
    Associate with coworkers after business hours in social settings
    Attend social functions sponsored by their employer unless attendance is required
    Serve on jury duty
    Read psychology, philosophy, sociology, and viewpoints that might shake their faith in Watchtower teachings. (This cannot be easily policed, but it is looked down upon and considered 'dangerous' to their faith.)
    Jehovah's Witnesses are discouraged from seeking professional psychiatric help for depression or mental illness
    Attend another church service even if it's a Christian church
    Attend a wedding held in another church
    Get married in another church
    Dating non believers is judged harshly
    Casual dating is discouraged and frowned upon
    Dating someone without the intent of getting married
    Having sex before marriage
    Breaking an engagement is judged harshly
    Marriage to non believers is judged harshly
    Throw rice at a wedding
    Get divorced unless the reason is adultery
    Can't remarry unless their ex commits fornication first
    Toast drinks
    Buy a raffle ticket
    Play bingo
    Gamble
    Sing any holiday songs
    Sing the National Anthem
    Say the pledge of allegiance
    Spiritualism. Talk with spirits. Believe in ghosts or talk about them. (Jehovah's Witnesses believe the dead are in a unconscious state awaiting a resurrection after armageddon. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that communication with ghosts may in fact be communication with evil Satanic spirits disguised as departed loved ones who happened to know people when they were living.)
    Celebrate Christmas
    Celebrate New Years Eve
    Celebrate Easter
    Celebrate Mother's Day
    Celebrate Father's Day
    Celebrate birthdays
    Celebrate Thanksgiving
    Celebrate Flag Day
    Celebrate Independence Day or any National Holiday
    Celebrate Saint Patrick's Day
    Celebrate Valentine's Day
    Celebrate Halloween
    Celebrate Hanukkah
    Celebrate any holiday
    Make holiday artwork for school
    Engage in holiday parties at school
    Take on a leadership role in school
    Having a family get together or party that happens to fall on a holiday can make some Jehovah's Witnesses uncomfortable. (This is a matter of conscience.)
    Watch X rated movies or pornography
    Do suggestive freestyle dancing
    Go to a gentlemen's club
    Attend a class, workshop, or seminar, sponsored by another church
    Attend social events or fund raisers sponsored by another church
    Use of bad language (curse words) is discouraged
    Wear blue jeans, shorts, and casual clothing at the Kingdom Hall
    Wear pants at a Kingdom Hall if you're a woman
    Wear revealing clothes or skirts that are too short (looked down upon)
    Wear long hair or facial hair if you're a man (depends on the local customs of the country you live in)
    Get body piercings
    Get tattoos
    Read anything that is contrary to what the Watchtower teaches (This is difficult to police or enforce. However it is considered dangerous to their faith.)
    Christian freedom is not allowed. They are not free to attend other Christian churches or interpret the Bible according to their own understanding. They must believe whatever the slave says is is 'the truth'. See the Slave Deception
    State or imply that the Watchtower is not run by Jehovah God. Challenging the Watchtower's authority as God's spokesperson and organization in considered Rebellion Against Jehovah's Organization. Has the Watchtower assumed the authority of God? Are Jehovah's Witnesses in fear of the Watchtower for this reason? See Idolatry and Blasphemy Against The Holy Spirit
    Have discussions about Bible based viewpoints that contradict what the Watchtower teaches or to say anything negative about the Watchtower Society. Criticism and complaints about the organization causes much concern, because Jehovah's Witnesses believe they must 'speak in agreement' and be 'like-minded'. Unity of beliefs is far more important than the search for truth. This is ironical because Jehovah's Witnesses always say they're 'in the truth' and those who are not Jehovah's Witnesses are said to be 'out of the truth'.
    Try to change the organization's doctrines or voice feedback on how to make their religion better. This is considered 'politicking' and 'running ahead' of 'God's' organization.
    Jehovah's Witnesses who persistently question 'the truth' as defined by their religious leaders, are usually asked to stop or leave at the expense of being shunned and treated as if they are literally dead. See disfellowshipping
    Follow their conscience if it conflicts with Watchtower teachings
    Interpret the Bible differently and imply that any 'false teachings' exist within the organization
    Worship God according to personal beliefs or conscience if this conflicts with Watchtower doctrines
    Consider other religious beliefs as valid or truthful. All other religions are thought to be false. The Watchtower has said that 'only Jehovah's Witnesses ... have any scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil.' See the Watchtower Sept 1 1989
    Acknowledge any prayer spoken by a non believer as valid
    Taking another Witness to court is considered shameful and a reproach upon 'Jehovah's organization'.

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    19 Sep '10 11:071 edit
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    [b]... restrictions. Are these restrictions from Christ or Russell ? Are you followers of Christ or Russell?

    141 Things Jehovah's Witnesses Can't Do.

    Belong to another organization or club for the purpose of socializing and friendship with 'worldly' people (Christian or not) who are not Jehovah's Witnesses. (Belonging to a professional association is al ...[text shortened]...
    things we can do,

    go from house to house preaching and teaching about the good news of Gods kingdom in respect to Christ command, (Matthew 24:14)

    where did Christ state that you as a Christian can sit on your bum and pontificate to others regarding their faith . . . while avoiding the necessity to help others come to an accurate knowledge of Biblical truth, . . . interested at RHP.
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    Wear or own a cross. They do not acknowledge the cross as a Christian symbol. It is thought to be of pagan origin. Jehovah's Witnesses are taught that Jesus died on a torture 'stake', not a cross.
    Own any religious picture
    Own any religions statue
    Idolize any visible representation of God except their religious organization and the 'slave' (i.e. the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. See the faithful and discreet slave deception.
    Believe in anything superstitious
    Believe in good luck or say things such as 'Good luck to you'.
    Research spiritual information other than what the Society publishes. Once again this is hard to police. However it is considered dangerous to their faith.
    Independent research on any spiritually related topic is discouraged
    Engage in occult practices, witchcraft, metaphysics, tarot cards, numerology, dowsing, ouija boards, seances, communicating with departed spirits
    Consult with a psychic or become one
    Engage in spiritual healing, energy healing, Reiki, hands on healing
    Charismatic Christian gifts such prophecy, speaking in tongues, interpretation of tongues, miracles, ...
    Read their horoscope
    Study astrology or zodiac signs (even though their founder Charles Taze Russell was very much interested in astrology and the occult. Research early Watchtower publications and Charles Taze Russell online.)

    Visit websites that expose the truth about the Watchtower publishing company's unscriptural religious doctrines. This is hard to enforce. However it is considered dangerous to their faith.
    Celebrate any holiday other than the death of Jesus
    Partake in the bread and wine that represents Christ's body unless they are part of the 144,000 'spiritual Israelites' or anointed ones with the heavenly hope. (Most Jehovah's Witnesses today believe they do NOT go to heaven. In some congregations no one eats the bread and wine even though everyone is given the opportunity.)
    Worship Jesus as God
    Independent thinking must be avoided. All Witnesses are expected to believe exactly the same things even if they don't. Unity of beliefs is one of the signs Jehovah's Witnesses point to prove they have 'the truth'. They don't consider the fact that everyone is forced to believe in the same things or risk being disfellowshipped and shunned by everyone that's important to them.
    Tell anyone they disagree with any doctrines or opinions of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. This is considered 'running ahead' of God's organization. All Watchtower doctrines are referred to as 'the truth'. Some say the word 'truth' is one of many Mind Control Words the Society uses to command obedience through simple hypnotic suggestions and mental programming.
    Idolize any celebrity or love and admire them to excess
    Women can't be elders
    Women can't be ministerial servants (assistants to the elders)
    Divulge secret information to 'enemies' of their organization. See Theocratic Warfare
    Openly show love and basic human kindness towards people who leave the Watchtower. However many Jehovah's Witnesses know that this contradicts the teachings of Jesus, so they secretly disobey Watchtower teachings on hatred. See what the Watchtower says about Hatred of Apostates. Disfellowshipped Jehovah's Witnesses cannot be acknowledged or greeted even with a simple 'Hello. How are you?' ( except for limited exceptions )
    Tell the truth to people who don't need to know or are 'not entitled to it'. This was called 'Theocratic Warfare' in older Watchtower publications and lectures. Being deceitful and cautious as serpents was thought to be Bible based whenever the interests of the organization or brotherhood is threatened. Even though Theocratic Warfare is not publicly talked about within the organization today, some say this is still being practiced in secret, especially by higher ranking JW's who have been loyal to the organization for many years. See Theocratic Warfare
    Tell the truth in court if it damages the interests of the brotherhood or harms a Witness in good standing. This is a matter of conscience and unspoken for obvious reasons. Jehovah's Witnesses want to be honest and they are told to be honest but at the same time the pressure is strong to protect their brothers and sisters from harm. Older Jehovah's Witnesses still remember what the Watchtower taught about Theocratic Warfare so they see nothing wrong with hiding the truth from their 'enemies' and those who are not entitled to know. Watch this video of a Jehovah's Witness Circuit Overseer and Elder denying the existence of a Watchtower publication under oath in court. ( No, this was not in Nazi Germany. It was in an American court room in 2002. )
    Read any other version of the Bible on a regular basis especially at Kingdom Hall services and reject the one published for Jehovah's Witnesses. Once again this is hard to police, enforce, or condemn. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that other translations the Bible are not as accurate as the NWT Bible. Certainly it would be inappropriate for a Jehovah's Witness to tell anyone about errors in their Bible translation. See The Jehovah's Witnesses New World Translation Bible
    Discuss spiritual matters with anyone who is disfellowshipped
    Say 'Hello' or discuss anything with someone who is disfellowshipped unless they are family member living in the same house. Associating with disfellowshipped Jehovah's Witnesses who leave their religion is not allowed. This is a serious matter. It can result in disfellowshipping if a Jehovah's Witness gets caught and does not 'repent of their sin against 'God's organization''. Challenging the Watchtower's authority is considered Rebellion Against Jehovah's Organization
    Keep secrets from the organization. Jehovah's Witnesses must report friends and family members who break any of the Watchtower rules.

    http://thejehovahswitnesses.org/things-jehovahs-witnesses-cant-do.php
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    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Wear or own a cross. They do not acknowledge the cross as a Christian symbol. It is thought to be of pagan origin. Jehovah's Witnesses are taught that Jesus died on a torture 'stake', not a cross.
    Own any religious picture
    Own any religions statue
    Idolize any visible representation of God except their religious organization and the 'slave' (i.e. the Go ngs-jehovahs-witnesses-cant-do.php
    where did Christ state that you as a supposed Christian can sit on your bum and pontificate to others regarding their faith . . . while avoiding the necessity to help others come to an accurate knowledge of Biblical truth, . . . interested at RHP.

    Matthew 24:14, you may wish to look it up. However it may involve leaving your throne of pontification, walking a few meters, picking up a bible, opening it, reading the text, thinking about the text, thinking how it applies, and heaven forbid, doing something about it, we wait in anticipation.
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    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Wear or own a cross. They do not acknowledge the cross as a Christian symbol. It is thought to be of pagan origin. Jehovah's Witnesses are taught that Jesus died on a torture 'stake', not a cross.
    Own any religious picture
    Own any religions statue
    Idolize any visible representation of God except their religious organization and the 'slave' (i.e. the Go ...[text shortened]... ngs-jehovahs-witnesses-cant-do.php
    why don't you tell the people what we actually do? why don't you tell the people, why you don't do it?
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    Jesus said "do not believe those that say disbelieve others when they say to not follow in the fotsteps of others cousins"
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    Originally posted by Rajk999
    [b]... restrictions. Are these restrictions from Christ or Russell ? Are you followers of Christ or Russell?

    141 Things Jehovah's Witnesses Can't Do.

    Belong to another organization or club for the purpose of socializing and friendship with 'worldly' people (Christian or not) who are not Jehovah's Witnesses. (Belonging to a professional association is al ...[text shortened]...
    God does not care how you look on the outside, but on the inside. If you walk across the road and see someone that is going to commit suicide, must you first go and do your whole makeup then come and talk to the person or should your act there and then - will it make a difference if you looked better?
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    20 Sep '10 12:46
    Originally posted by Nicksten
    God does not care how you look on the outside, but on the inside. If you walk across the road and see someone that is going to commit suicide, must you first go and do your whole makeup then come and talk to the person or should your act there and then - will it make a difference if you looked better?
    How bad off are you without the makeup?
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    20 Sep '10 13:10
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    [b]... restrictions. Are these restrictions from Christ or Russell ? Are you followers of Christ or Russell?

    141 Things Jehovah's Witnesses Can't Do.

    Belong to another organization or club for the purpose of socializing and friendship with 'worldly' people (Christian or not) who are not Jehovah's Witnesses. (Belonging to a professional association is al ...[text shortened]...
    there are a number of things on that list that other denominations frown upon as well
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    While some of that stuff I might agree with it seems very legalistic to say the least.
    More weight than the 10 commandments.





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    20 Sep '10 13:191 edit
    Originally posted by menace71
    While some of that stuff I might agree with it seems very legalistic to say the least.
    More weight than the 10 commandments.





    Manny
    the first one is triple unadulterated pure bull, if that were the case i could not go to a chess club, i could not go to the gym? in fact i would need to isolate myself from the rest of society and live like a hermit. Glavo could not go to his racket ball club or anything, its just pure bull, who wrote that garbage?
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    sing any holiday songs? what are you talking about, I love Greenday, Holiday, from the album American Idiot, play it in the car all the time, i have even been known to sing along with Cliff Richard, whose guitarist just happens to be a Jehovahs Witness, 'were all going on a summer holiday', just another piece of bumf, who wrote this garbage?
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    21 Sep '10 04:461 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    sing any holiday songs? what are you talking about, I love Greenday, Holiday, from the album American Idiot, play it in the car all the time, i have even been known to sing along with Cliff Richard, whose guitarist just happens to be a Jehovahs Witness, 'were all going on a summer holiday', just another piece of bumf, who wrote this garbage?
    How about some Motorhead!! ?? Can ya sing along to that?? "Ace of Spades"

    😉



    Manny
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    21 Sep '10 08:23
    Originally posted by menace71
    How about some Motorhead!! ?? Can ya sing along to that?? "Ace of Spades"

    😉



    Manny
    thats wuss rock! you need to listen to a little Saxon, heavy metal thunder!

    YouTube&feature=related
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    21 Sep '10 08:33
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Wear or own a cross. They do not acknowledge the cross as a Christian symbol. It is thought to be of pagan origin. Jehovah's Witnesses are taught that Jesus died on a torture 'stake', not a cross.
    Own any religious picture
    Own any religions statue
    Idolize any visible representation of God except their religious organization and the 'slave' (i.e. the Go ...[text shortened]... ngs-jehovahs-witnesses-cant-do.php
    Your quite possesed aren't you Rajjjjjjjjjjjjjj? I tell you what...WE are going to stop spending millions of hours yearly on what you should be doing so you can take over for us since it seems in your pure and unadultraited eyes we are so wrong. Go ahead, the floor is yours.
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