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25 Jul 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI suggest the quote is an over-the-top way of saying optimism and pessimism about one's situation can both be overdone.
[b]Who do you know?
“Knowing God without knowing our own wretchedness makes for pride. Knowing our own wretchedness without knowing God makes for despair.
Knowing Jesus Christ strikes the balance because he shows us both God and our own wretchedness.” -Blaise Pascal / Who do you know?
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyBlaise Pascal must have been a wise man in this regard. He is right about this for the Christian. We know both our wretchednesss as sinners to a deeper and deeper degree as we progress spiritually. Yet to a great degree we also know and marvel at the depth of God's forgiveness and redemption for us.
[b]Who do you know?
“Knowing God without knowing our own wretchedness makes for pride. Knowing our own wretchedness without knowing God makes for despair.
Knowing Jesus Christ strikes the balance because he shows us both God and our own wretchedness.” -Blaise Pascal / Who do you know?
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The latter is way more than adaquate to be a counter balance to the ever brighteneing light we receive on our sinful nature. Correspondingly an ever encreaseing revelation of what Christ can be in us and for us as we live in oneness with His perfect humanity.
The unbeliever in Christ may only think only the self wretchednesss of the sinner is made known to the follower of Jesus. Without experience the unbeliever cannot know either himself in the light of God and the encredible extent in which God in Christ comes to replace the fallen Adamic nature, and be the indwelling Godman as our new human life.
25 Jul 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI know myself. I am flawed, but not wretched. Thus, there is no cause for despair. I will never be perfect, but I do alright.
[b]Who do you know?
“Knowing God without knowing our own wretchedness makes for pride. Knowing our own wretchedness without knowing God makes for despair.
Knowing Jesus Christ strikes the balance because he shows us both God and our own wretchedness.” -Blaise Pascal / Who do you know?
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26 Jul 12
Originally posted by Grampy Bobbyblaise pascal didn't know what he was talking about.
[b]Who do you know?
“Knowing God without knowing our own wretchedness makes for pride. Knowing our own wretchedness without knowing God makes for despair.
Knowing Jesus Christ strikes the balance because he shows us both God and our own wretchedness.” -Blaise Pascal / Who do you know?
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Originally posted by RJHindsYour spiritual persona here is gradually changing; you are becoming more petulant and careless with your words, whilst revealingly more caricatured - for example, your silly little 'signature' which you so carefully contrive to present exactly the same in every post.
I come and go as I please. I am like the wind.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!
Perhaps the ‘curtain’ is flapping open a little more and we see you franticly pulling levers and twisting dials in a vain attempt to keep the lights on. But perhaps you don't care about that, because as you are clearly running out of ideas on how to attract attention to yourself you are gradually realising that the cost is a now an irretrievable loss in your online character's credibility and the only option left is to send yourself up.
26 Jul 12
Originally posted by divegeesterWhat???
Your spiritual persona here is gradually changing; you are becoming more petulant and careless with your words, whilst revealingly more caricatured - for example, your silly little 'signature' which you so carefully contrive to present exactly the same in every post.
Perhaps the ‘curtain’ is flapping open a little more and we see you franticly pulli ...[text shortened]... loss in your online character's credibility and the only option left is to send yourself up.
27 Jul 12
it's really telling. some douche comes along and states something flippant, but since it apologizes for or defends the biblegod, the supporters of biblegod think it's some kind of wise words of a master.
let's examine the lack of substance here:
"Knowing God without knowing our own wretchedness makes for pride."
no. this is a fiat declaration, meaningless and unproven.
"Knowing our own wretchedness without knowing God makes for despair. "
no. this is a fiat declaration, meaningless and unproven.
"Knowing Jesus Christ strikes the balance because he shows us both God and our own wretchedness."
no. this is a fiat declaration, meaningless and unproven.
so what we have is a mess of jumbled words having no meaning other than to support an existing dogma. all those who are slaves of the dogma will immediately believe that all these things are actually true without being proven. it's the misguided "faith" thing at work.