Originally posted by googlefudge
And no god/s that are prepared to torture people for eternity for not guessing that they exist and worshiping them
despite having been given no evidence of their existence whatsoever is not worthy of being worshipped.
There's an old joke like this.
A very devout evangelist lived in a house in a flood plain, but was not worried because he felt that if there were a flood, God would save him.
Sure enough, the rainy season that year was prodigious, resulting in a rare 100-year flood that flooded nearly the entire valley.
Amid the rising waters, he promptly climbed to the roof where he started praying and awaited the hand of God to remove him to safety.
Soon enough, his neighbor came by in a motorboat and called to him to climb aboard. The evangelist said, "No need, God will save me."
A little while later, the Red Cross came by in a bigger motorboat and called to him to come with them. The evangelist said, "No need, God will save me. There are others further down the valley that need you more than I do."
Finally a short time later a helicopter came by and dropped a line with a soldier on it to whisk him off the roof. The soldier said, "We're evacuating the area, this may be your last chance to be saved." The evangelist said, "Don't worry about me, God will save me. Go save some others who need you more." After some minutes of arguing, the helicopter finally left without him.
Of course the river rose higher and the evangelist drowned and in due time was brought before St. Peter. The evangelist said to him, "I thought God would save me, what happened?" St. Peter calmly said, "We sent two motorboats and a helicopter for you, what more did you want?"
You say God is prepared to torture you for eternity for "not guessing that they exist despite having been given no evidence of their existence whatsoever". This is childish to throw this back on God. Exactly how many faithful Christians do you know? How many do you HAVE to know before you realize the truth? "It's God's fault" doesn't exactly buy it here. It's YOUR fault for not listening to the people He's sent to try to show you the way. I've told you countless times that Faith is the way. Faith will show you the truth. But you'd rather sit behind your castle walls, secure in the knowledge that you must be right when any number of us have said, "No, you're wrong." How much do you expect God to do to save one sinner in the world? If that sinner is recalcitrant in the extreme, don't you expect God to give up and concentrate on the ones He CAN save? This is WHY you have Free Will. So none can say, "How can God screw me like this?" The fact is, you screwed yourself by hardening your heart to Him.