Originally posted by twhitehead What is it about? You seem remarkably reluctant to explain what you do mean by 'abolish'. When you 'call for the abolition of a religion', what exactly do you want to be done? What would it take to stop you from being a Christian? A declaration that Christianity is abolished? Mild persuasion? Torture? Death?
[b]This is about the freedom to call for the ...[text shortened]... uired to carry it out. Such a person does fit the descriptions: bigot, racist and extremist.
Old sunhouse had a solution to the problem of genocide with an anti-religion virus that takes away all faith in all religions without killing anyone. This sounds suspiciously like the born again belief by Christians that changes people into a new person in Christ when old desires are done away with. I wonder if he is copying that idea and changing it to suit his own evil desires.
Originally posted by RJHinds Old sunhouse had a solution to the problem of genocide with an anti-religion virus that takes away all faith in all religions without killing anyone. This sounds suspiciously like the born again belief by Christians that changes people into a new person in Christ when old desires are done away with. I wonder if he is copying that idea and changing it to suit his own evil desires.
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So for you all the crusades, the inquisitions, the fatwahs, the forced conversions to some faith or other or death, all that is MUCH better than having no religion?
Originally posted by sonhouse So for you all the crusades, the inquisitions, the fatwahs, the forced conversions to some faith or other or death, all that is MUCH better than having no religion?
Sometimes one must go through the bad to appreciate the good. Know what I mean?
It is my considered opinion that you can have a proper orderly society
without any religion. All that is needed is a sensible and moral code of
conduct which follows the rules of common sense.
Everyone knows that you should not cheat or steal or murder.
All that is required is a judicial system which takes those offenses
into account an nd talents that can make
this place a better world to live in without the horror of any religion.
Absolutely! All Religion per se is man made. Spirituality, represents the Next and Ultimate Dimension of Human Existence Beyond Morality. Our Creator has Decreed Four Divine Institutions: 1) Volition (free will); 2) Marriage (to perpetuate human life on earth); 3) Family (the core unit of all civilized societies); 4) Nationalism (with internal law and external military victory as the price of freedom). Every one of these Four Divine Institutions has come under attack since Eden. (gb)
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby Absolutely! All Religion per se is man made. Spirituality, represents the Next and Ultimate Dimension of Human Existence Beyond Morality. Our Creator has Decreed Four Divine Institutions: 1) Volition (free will); 2) Marriage (to perpetuate human life on earth); 3) Family (the core unit of all civilized societies); 4) Nationalism (with internal law and e ...[text shortened]... of freedom). Every one of these Four Divine Institutions has come under attack since Eden. (gb)
"Nationalism (with internal law and external military victory as the price of freedom)."
So the Creator is a realist. But nationalism may be a phase, as were feudalism and mercantilism.
Originally posted by divegeester In the wake of the recent "Abolish Islam" debacle, I made a comment in another thread that posters in this forum had a one time or another either called for or approved of the removal of Christianity from the world. Proper Knob has challenged me on it and to be fair I could be mistaken, so I'm inviting those of an opinion to comment:
[b]In a situation nity either stays or it goes on it's own merits and this is a one time offer. Your call...
"Abolish" as others have stated before me, is a word loaded with murky connotations. I don't think anyone in their right mind, wrt any religion, would wish for a real life manifestation of what that word is generally thought to entail (and the likes of Dasa, the character that RJHinds parodies, etc... are not of sound mind).
Pandering to the definition of "abolish" that most people, including myself, work with, I categorically state I do not wish for the abolition of Christianity (or any other religion). I say this despite the fact that in any meaningful sense of the term "absolutely sure", I am absolutely sure that the deities associated to these religions do not exist; and wish to be alive at some point when this view is held by the majority.
Originally posted by divegeester So you would deny me my religion. On what grounds?
On the grounds that religion has made you as crazy as a bedbug. Built in biases against anything human, like thinking for ones self for instance, like making sure women are barefoot and pregnant or gays are killed for being gay. You are part of the problem not the solution. You AND your religion. Until people around the world kick the shackles of religion we will remain adults with the emotional level of 12 year olds and thus ready and able to fight over religion at the drop of a hat. Until that attitude is utterly gone from the human race there can be no real maturity in humans. That is EXACTLY why we need to escape the shackles of religion.
Who would abolish Christianity
30 May '13 08:22
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