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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat I have actually said is that ignorance and prejudice are symptomatic of a moral disposition. The justification for the use of violence is also symptomatic of a moral disposition. That we find these similarities between critics of Jehovahs witnesses and those who engaged in and perpetrated lynching [...] If you can state why they are different then please do so now.
Well, you disapprove of the lynchings and murders and you also disapprove of criticisms of your religious group, so that is something that is the same about the two things, I suppose.
You ask: "If you can state why they are different then please do so now". OK. Well, one is murdering people and the other is an expression of opinions that you happen to disagree with. That's a pretty fundamental difference right there.
Would you also ask me to state what the moral difference is between trenchant dislike and opposition to Tory policies in Britain and lynch mobs murdering black and white people? No, you wouldn't because it is ludicrous. Even if a Tory supporter accused me of 'ignorance, bigotry, hatred and prejudice' against Tories, it would still not justify equating my criticism of Tories to lynch mobs murdering people.
-Removed-Allegedly so, and yet you have the same moral disposition as lynchers . You are ignorant, prejudiced and bigoted and think that the use of violence can be justified. In fact you cannot tell us why despite being asked about five times why we should consider you nay different.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie to divegeesterA couple of hours ago you said to divegeester: "Whether your moral disposition is any different from those people who engaged in and witnessed lynchings I cannot say." And now you're saying to him that he has "the same moral disposition as lynchers". Which is it to be?
Allegedly so, and yet you have the same moral disposition as lynchers .
Originally posted by FMFGee i still cannot see where you are able to tell my why his moral disposition is any different? Why are you having difficulty?
[b]What I have actually said is that ignorance and prejudice are symptomatic of a moral disposition. The justification for the use of violence is also symptomatic of a moral disposition. That we find these similarities between critics of Jehovahs witnesses and those who engaged in and perpetrated lynching [...] If you can state why they are different then ple ...[text shortened]... ries, it would still not justify equating my criticism of Tories to lynch mobs murdering people.
Originally posted by FMFthats what I am trying to find out, i have only asked you about six time to help me understand why they are different, so far you have failed to produce anything.
A couple of hours ago you said to divegeester: "Whether your moral disposition is any different from those people who engaged in and witnessed lynchings I cannot say." And now you're saying to him that he has "the same moral disposition as lynchers". Which is it to be?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou're still sidestepping my point blank answer to the question you put to me.
Gee i still cannot see where you are able to tell my why his moral disposition is any different? Why are you having difficulty?
Try this bit. Would you also ask me to state what the moral difference is between trenchant dislike and opposition to Tory policies in Britain and lynch mobs murdering black and white people?
No, you wouldn't, because it is ludicrous.
Even if a Tory supporter accused me of 'ignorance, bigotry, hatred and prejudice' against Tories, it would still not justify equating my criticism of Tories to lynch mobs murdering people.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieJust tell him you are sorry and you apologize. Maybe that will do it.
I have retracted the statement that you were equally bigoted, hateful etc this is the second possibly the third time I have stated that in this thread and probably about the fifth or sixth time i have stated it in a previous thread, why you fail to comprehend the matter i cannot say. I withdrew it on the basis that hate is difficult to quantify, yo ...[text shortened]... ateful, bigoted, prejudiced and ignorant. There is ample evidence of that here on these forums.
In my case I would have to apologize for telling him what i believe is the truth, so i am going to hold off until he humbles himself and shows signs of repentance. 😏
Originally posted by robbie carrobiePeople can see for themselves whether you have been in Clan Forum mode on this thread. They need not factor in anyone's propaganda.
you might have a singular belief in your own propaganda, personally i treat it as one does a suspect device.