Why Do You Believe What You Believe?

Originally posted by Eladar
Have you read Romans 9 yet?

Many times over the years.

Originally posted by FMF
As a propagator of the religious beliefs you just so happen to hold, you seem to be channelling Dasa.

Dasa was, and still is as far as I know, very religious, as are most, but I'm not. If I was religious, then you'd have a point, but I'm not, so you're wrong.

Originally posted by josephw
Dasa was, and still is as far as I know, very religious, as are most, but I'm not. If I was religious, then you'd have a point, but I'm not, so you're wrong.

Oh right, that old chestnut - so Christianity isn't a religion?

Originally posted by josephw
The [something or other I believe] is real. If one doesn't believe [something or other that I believe] , then what one believes is wrong. ...fixed

See? Just like Dasa.

Originally posted by josephw
Many times over the years.

You wanted a reference for Paul saying God created some for noble purposes and otjers for common purpose.

Originally posted by Eladar
You wanted a reference for Paul saying God created some for noble purposes and otjers for common purpose.

I got it Eladar. It's an interesting study. I think what Paul was driving at in the passage is that as His creation we shouldn't question why we are made as we are.

Originally posted by FMF
Oh right, that old chestnut - so Christianity isn't a religion?

You get an A. It's about time you finally realize that.

Originally posted by FMF
See? Just like Dasa.

I'm glad you finally realize that you are as religious as Dasa.

Originally posted by josephw
You get an A. It's about time you finally realize that.

What are you on about? Realize what? I've only ever encountered about three or four Christians that have insisted that Christianity is not a religion and it's always turned out to be nothing more than a rhetorical gimmick that they cannot argue credibly in any discussion.

Originally posted by josephw
I'm glad you finally realize that you are as religious as Dasa.

Dasa was some kind of Hindu extremist. I don't profess any religion.

Originally posted by josephw
I got it Eladar. It's an interesting study. I think what Paul was driving at in the passage is that as His creation we shouldn't question why we are made as we are.

Specifically concerning double predestination.

Originally posted by FMF
I don't profess any religion.

And you're extremely religious about it.

Originally posted by josephw
And you're extremely religious about it.

This kind of synonym-juggling is doesn't help you make any kind of case that Christianity is somehow not-a-religion.

Originally posted by FMF
I've only ever encountered about three or four Christians that have insisted that Christianity is not a religion and it's always turned out to be nothing more than a rhetorical gimmick that they cannot argue credibly in any discussion.

Only because you don't know how to have a credible discussion. If you weren't so spiritually weak in the knees, and so hell bent on derailing any discussion, then maybe you might have a credible argument to discuss, but as it stands your religion of unbelief overshadows the debate.

Originally posted by Eladar
Specifically concerning double predestination.

I know of two views concerning predestination, but the term "double predestination" isn't one I'm familiar with.

Probably over my head.